From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-it0-f46.google.com ([209.85.214.46]:36549 "EHLO mail-it0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751258AbdC0OPb (ORCPT ); Mon, 27 Mar 2017 10:15:31 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f46.google.com with SMTP id e75so22116568itd.1 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2017 07:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Shrinking a device - performance? To: Christian Theune References: <1CCB3887-A88C-41C1-A8EA-514146828A42@flyingcircus.io> <20170327130730.GN11714@carfax.org.uk> <3558CE2F-0B8F-437B-966C-11C1392B81F2@flyingcircus.io> <20170327132404.GO11714@carfax.org.uk> Cc: Hugo Mills , linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org From: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 10:14:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Sender: linux-btrfs-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 2017-03-27 09:50, Christian Theune wrote: > Hi, > >> On Mar 27, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Austin S. Hemmelgarn wrote: >>> >>>> Something I’d like to verify: does having traffic on the volume have >>>> the potential to delay this infinitely? I.e. does the system write >>>> to any segments that we’re trying to free so it may have to work on >>>> the same chunk over and over again? If not, then this means it’s >>>> just slow and we’re looking forward to about 2 months worth of time >>>> shrinking this volume. (And then again on the next bigger server >>>> probably about 3-4 months). >>> >>> I don't know. I would hope not, but I simply don't know enough >>> about the internal algorithms for that. Maybe someone else can confirm? >> I'm not 100% certain, but I believe that while it can delay things, it can't do so infinitely. AFAICT from looking at the code (disclaimer: I am not a C programmer by profession), it looks like writes to chunks that are being compacted or moved will go to the new location, not the old one, but writes to chunks which aren't being touched by the resize currently will just go to where the chunk is currently. Based on this, lowering the amount of traffic to the FS could probably speed things up a bit, but it likely won't help much. > > I hoped that this is the strategy implemented, otherwise it would end up in an infinite cat-and-mouse game. ;) I know that balance and replace work this way, and the code for resize appears to handle things similarly to both, so I'm pretty certain it works this way. TBH though, it's really the only sane way to handle something like this. > >>>> (Background info: we’re migrating large volumes from btrfs to xfs >>>> and can only do this step by step: copying some data, shrinking the >>>> btrfs volume, extending the xfs volume, rinse repeat. If someone >>>> should have any suggestions to speed this up and not having to think >>>> in terms of _months_ then I’m all ears.) >>> >>> All I can suggest is to move some unused data off the volume and do >>> it in fewer larger steps. Sorry. >> Same. >> >> The other option though is to just schedule a maintenance window, nuke the old FS, and restore from a backup. If you can afford to take the system off-line temporarily, this will almost certainly go faster (assuming you have a reasonably fast means of restoring backups). > > Well. This is the backup. ;) Ah, yeah, that does complicate things a bit more.