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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2018 06:43:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ae282736-b3bd-d1ac-142e-d7394b5efbb6@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877emj5rij.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On 06/28/2018 01:55 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:

> Changing an existing event from broadcast to unicast is an observable
> change in existing behavior.  Compatibility break unless we can show
> nobody can use / uses the observation.

And no one could have been relying on the broadcast COMMAND_DROPPED 
event semantics, since OOB was previously experimental and since we just 
proved that they are wrong if not limited to one monitor.

> 
> Creating a new event is not a compatibility break by itself[*],
> regardless of broadcast vs. unicast.
> 
>> My current plan is that I can touch up scripts/qapi/events.py and
>> related stuff to allow QMPEventFuncEmit to take a monitor parameter,
>> then we pass in NULL when we want to send the event to all monitors.
>>
>> Would that work?
> 
> Think so.
> 
> Alternatively, a pair of functions:
> 
>      void qapi_event_bcast_EVENT(... event params ..., Error **errp);
>      void qapi_event_send_EVENT(Monitor *mon, ... event params ..., Error **errp);
> 
> Slightly more compact in the broadcast case, might be a bit easier to
> read.

Also, fewer NULL arguments to add into existing call sites (although 
existing call sites would change to use the _bcast_ form, so you're 
already touching all call sites, which brings back the topic from the 
other mail on dropping useless errp while at it).

> 
> 
> [*] In the case of COMMAND_DROPPED, the compatibility break is dropping
> commands (the event's trigger), caused by the command queuing feature.
> That's why command queuing has to be opt-in.  Details discussed
> elsewhere in this thread.

Indeed, and I thought the conclusion there was that we DO promise that 
COMMAND_DROPPED (and dropped commands in general) won't happen unless 
you negotiate oob at initial connection.

-- 
Eric Blake, Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.           +1-919-301-3266
Virtualization:  qemu.org | libvirt.org

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-28 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-20  7:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/7] monitor: enable OOB by default Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 1/7] chardev: comment details for CLOSED event Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 2/7] monitor: rename *_pop_one to *_pop_any Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 3/7] monitor: flush qmp responses when CLOSED Peter Xu
2018-06-20  8:33   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-20  8:38     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-20  9:50       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 4/7] tests: iotests: drop some stderr line Peter Xu
2018-06-20  8:35   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 5/7] docs: mention shared state protect for OOB Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 6/7] monitor: remove "x-oob", turn oob on by default Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 7/7] Revert "tests: Add parameter to qtest_init_without_qmp_handshake" Peter Xu
2018-06-26 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] (no subject) Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27  7:38   ` [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27  8:41     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 10:20       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-27 11:23         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 12:07           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 12:37             ` Eric Blake
2018-06-28  7:04               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-29  7:20                 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28  6:55             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-28 11:43               ` Eric Blake [this message]
2018-06-29  8:18               ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 13:13       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 13:28         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-28 13:02           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 13:34         ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 13:20           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-29  9:01             ` Peter Xu
2018-07-18 15:08               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-19 13:00                 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27  7:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27  8:35     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 12:32       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28  9:29         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-29  9:42           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 13:36     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 11:59   ` [Qemu-devel] your mail Peter Xu
2018-06-28  8:31     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-28 11:51       ` Eric Blake
2018-06-28 12:00       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-29  9:57         ` Peter Xu
2018-06-29 15:40           ` Eric Blake
2018-07-02  5:43   ` [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default Markus Armbruster
2018-07-04  5:44     ` Peter Xu
2018-07-04  7:03       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-30 16:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/7] " Markus Armbruster

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