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From: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Evgenii Shatokhin <eshatokhin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 05/10] livepatch: Support separate list for replaced patches.
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:56:05 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.1804110949310.28885@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180410174729.nsamiif73pynfla4@treble>

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:

> > > I agree here. Practically we use only cumulative replacement patches at
> > > SUSE. So with that in mind I don't care about the stacking much. But, it
> > > may make sense for someone else. Evgenii mentioned they used it for
> > > hotfixes. Therefore I'm reluctant to remove it completely.
> > 
> > Well, it was convenient in some cases to provide a hot fix for a given bug
> > on top of our official cumulative patch. So far, such fixes were only used
> > on a few of the customers' machines (where they were needed ASAP). It just
> > made it easier to see where is the common set of fixes and where is the
> > customer-specific addition.
> > 
> > I think, we can use cumulative patches in such cases too without much
> > additional effort. For example, we can encode the distinction (base set of
> > fixes + addition) in the module name or somewhere else.
> > 
> > So, I think, it is fine for us, if stacking support is removed. Especially
> > if that makes the implementation of livepatch less complex and more
> > reliable.
> 
> Just to clarify, I think we are just proposing the removal of the
> enforcement of the stacking order.  We will still allow multiple
> non-replace patches to be applied.  We just won't enforce which patches
> can be disabled/removed at any given time.

Heh, so I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about the removal of 
the stacking. Now it makes more sense.
 
> So I think your old way of doing things (individual unrelated patches on
> top of a cumulative patch) would still work.

Yes. On the other hand the user needs to be even more careful, so I'd 
expect an update of documentation with the removal :).

Miroslav

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-11  7:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-07  8:20 [PATCH v10 00/10] livepatch: Atomic replace feature Petr Mladek
2018-03-07  8:20 ` [PATCH v10 01/10] livepatch: Use lists to manage patches, objects and functions Petr Mladek
2018-03-13 22:38   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-07  8:20 ` [PATCH v10 02/10] livepatch: Free only structures with initialized kobject Petr Mladek
2018-03-13 22:38   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-14 15:50     ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-07  8:20 ` [PATCH v10 03/10] livepatch: Initial support for dynamic structures Petr Mladek
2018-03-13 22:44   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-19 13:10     ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-07  8:20 ` [PATCH v10 04/10] livepatch: Allow to unpatch only functions of the given type Petr Mladek
2018-03-07  8:20 ` [PATCH v10 05/10] livepatch: Support separate list for replaced patches Petr Mladek
2018-03-13 22:46   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-19 15:02     ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-19 21:43       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-20 12:25         ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-20 12:48           ` Evgenii Shatokhin
2018-03-20 13:30           ` Miroslav Benes
2018-03-20 20:15           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-23  9:45             ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-23 22:44               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-26 10:11                 ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-06 19:50                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-04-10  8:34                     ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-10 13:21                       ` Miroslav Benes
2018-04-10 13:56                         ` Evgenii Shatokhin
2018-04-10 17:47                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-04-11  7:56                             ` Miroslav Benes [this message]
2018-04-10 17:42                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-04-11  8:07                         ` Miroslav Benes
2018-04-11 12:32                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-04-11 13:39                             ` Miroslav Benes
2018-04-11 14:17                             ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-11 15:48                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-04-16 14:58                                 ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-16 19:04                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-04-17  8:23                                     ` Miroslav Benes
2018-04-17 15:37                                     ` Petr Mladek
2018-04-17 17:57                                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-07  8:20 ` [PATCH v10 06/10] livepatch: Add atomic replace Petr Mladek
2018-03-13 22:48   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-20 14:35     ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-20 21:26       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-03-22 15:43         ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-07  8:20 ` [PATCH v10 07/10] livepatch: Correctly handle atomic replace for not yet loaded modules Petr Mladek
2018-03-13 14:55   ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-07  8:20 ` [PATCH v10 08/10] livepatch: Improve dynamic struct klp_object detection and manipulation Petr Mladek
2018-03-07  8:20 ` [PATCH v10 09/10] livepatch: Allow to replace even disabled patches Petr Mladek
2018-03-07  8:20 ` [PATCH v10 10/10] livepatch: Atomic replace and cumulative patches documentation Petr Mladek
2018-03-07 21:55 ` [PATCH v10 00/10] livepatch: Atomic replace feature Joe Lawrence
2018-03-08 15:01   ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-08 15:09     ` Joe Lawrence
2018-03-12 18:57       ` Joe Lawrence
2018-03-20 13:16         ` Miroslav Benes
2018-03-26 10:56         ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-26 18:12           ` Joe Lawrence
2018-03-27  8:22             ` Petr Mladek
2018-08-17 10:17 ` Evgenii Shatokhin
2018-08-17 14:53   ` Petr Mladek
2018-08-17 15:33     ` Evgenii Shatokhin

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