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From: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, crosa@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] block/qcow2: use seqcache for compressed writes
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 13:25:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cec9f2d3-af82-1de2-2ddf-be1b9dde73f9@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7fb10a80-8001-966d-533e-3f74c739571a@virtuozzo.com>

On 15.03.21 15:40, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 15.03.2021 12:58, Max Reitz wrote:

[...]

>> The question is whether it really makes sense to even have a 
>> seqcache_read() path when in reality it’s probably never accessed.  I 
>> mean, besides the fact that it seems based purely on chance whether a 
>> read might fetch something from the cache even while we’re writing, in 
>> practice I don’t know any case where we’d write to and read from a 
>> compressed qcow2 image at the same time.  (I don’t know what you’re 
>> doing with the 'compress' filter, though.)
>>
> 
> Note, that for user that's not a parallel write and read to the same 
> cluster:
> 
> 1. user writes cluster A, request succeeded, data is in the cache
> 
> 2. user writes some other clusters, cache filled, flush started
> 
> 3. in parallel to [2] user reads cluster A. From the POV of user, 
> cluster A is written already, and should be read successfully

Yes, but when would that happen?

> And seqcache_read() gives a simple non-blocking way to support read 
> operation.

OK, that makes sense.  We’d need to flush the cache before we can read 
anything from the disk, so we should have a read-from-cache branch here.

> But rewriting compressed clusters is sensible only when we run real 
> guest on compressed image.. Can it be helpful? Maybe for scenarios with 
> low disk usage ratio..

I’m not sure, but the point is that rewrites are currently not 
supported.  The whole compression implementation is mainly tailored 
towards just writing a complete image (e.g. by qemu-img convert or the 
backup job), so that’s where my question is coming from: It’s difficult 
for me to see a currently working use case where you’d read from and 
write to a compressed image at the same time.

Max



  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-16 12:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-05 17:35 [PATCH v3 0/6] qcow2: compressed write cache Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] block-jobs: flush target at the end of .run() Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-11 16:57   ` Max Reitz
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] iotests: add qcow2-discard-during-rewrite Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] block/qcow2: introduce inflight writes counters: fix discard Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-11 19:58   ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12  9:09     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 11:17       ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 12:32         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 12:42           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 15:01             ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 12:46           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 15:10             ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 15:24               ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 15:52                 ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 16:03                   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 14:58           ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 15:39             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] util: implement seqcache Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 13:41   ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 14:37     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 15:13       ` Max Reitz
2021-06-04 14:31   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] block-coroutine-wrapper: allow non bdrv_ prefix Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 16:53   ` Max Reitz
2021-03-05 17:35 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] block/qcow2: use seqcache for compressed writes Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-12 18:15   ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 18:43     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-15  9:58       ` Max Reitz
2021-03-15 14:40         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-16 12:25           ` Max Reitz [this message]
2021-03-16 17:48             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-17  8:09               ` Max Reitz
2021-03-12 18:45     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-03-29 20:18     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy

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