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Venkataraman'" , "'Mark Rutland'" Subject: RE: [PATCH v1 0/4] [RFC] Implement Trampoline File Descriptor Thread-Topic: [PATCH v1 0/4] [RFC] Implement Trampoline File Descriptor Thread-Index: AQHWZ2jYT+e4gDrzGEmP/30MMvDTCqkmD9qggABvyICAAB4gEA== Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2020 16:57:47 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20200728131050.24443-1-madvenka@linux.microsoft.com> <6540b4b7-3f70-adbf-c922-43886599713a@linux.microsoft.com> <46a1adef-65f0-bd5e-0b17-54856fb7e7ee@linux.microsoft.com> <20200731183146.GD67415@C02TD0UTHF1T.local> <7fdc102e-75ea-6d91-d2a3-7fe8c91802ce@linux.microsoft.com> In-Reply-To: <7fdc102e-75ea-6d91-d2a3-7fe8c91802ce@linux.microsoft.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.202.205.107] MIME-Version: 1.0 Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=C51A453 smtp.mailfrom=david.laight@aculab.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: aculab.com X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20200803_125752_844995_C7856FD9 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 15.81 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Kernel Hardening , Linux API , X86 ML , LKML , Oleg Nesterov , LSM List , Andy Lutomirski , Linux FS Devel , linux-integrity , linux-arm-kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org From: Madhavan T. Venkataraman > Sent: 03 August 2020 17:03 > > On 8/3/20 3:27 AM, David Laight wrote: > > From: Mark Rutland > >> Sent: 31 July 2020 19:32 > > ... > >>> It requires PC-relative data references. I have not worked on all architectures. > >>> So, I need to study this. But do all ISAs support PC-relative data references? > >> Not all do, but pretty much any recent ISA will as it's a practical > >> necessity for fast position-independent code. > > i386 has neither PC-relative addressing nor moves from %pc. > > The cpu architecture knows that the sequence: > > call 1f > > 1: pop %reg > > is used to get the %pc value so is treated specially so that > > it doesn't 'trash' the return stack. > > > > So PIC code isn't too bad, but you have to use the correct > > sequence. > > Is that true only for 32-bit systems only? I thought RIP-relative addressing was > introduced in 64-bit mode. Please confirm. I said i386 not amd64 or x86-64. So yes, 64bit code has PC-relative addressing. But I'm pretty sure it has no other way to get the PC itself except using call - certainly nothing in the 'usual' instructions. David - Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK Registration No: 1397386 (Wales) _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel