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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
Cc: "Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	"Git Mailing List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Martin Ågren" <martin.agren@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Rikl" <trikl@online.de>,
	"Thomas Gummerer" <t.gummerer@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Alt. PATCH] ls-remote: deprecate -h as short for --heads
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 09:52:58 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqbmkxbc45.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c53071a-5154-1246-d2f1-1064e3f923d4@web.de> (=?utf-8?Q?=22R?= =?utf-8?Q?en=C3=A9?= Scharfe"'s message of "Mon, 23 Oct 2017 17:05:23 +0200")

René Scharfe <l.s.r@web.de> writes:

> Am 21.10.2017 um 14:18 schrieb Junio C Hamano:
>> René Scharfe <l.s.r@web.de> writes:
>> 
>>> FWIW, I use "-?" for that everywhere.  I have yet to find a command or
>>> environment where it does something dangerous.
>> 
>> Yeah, it would have made the world a better place if we made that
>> choice back in 2008.  If we start a transition to make it so right
>> now, we might be able to make the world a better place by 2022,
>> perhaps.  I am not sure if the pain during the transition is worth
>> it, though.
>
> "-?" works fine with builtins already -- they complain that the option
> is unknown and then show the short help text.

Ah, I misunderstood what you meant, then.  I thought you were
advocating to move the built-in short-help support to know about and
explicitly react to "-?", and somehow forgot that it "works" more or
less already.

The fact that "-?" already works for most things is good, but the
transition pain still remains, as what's costly is to transition
people's expectation (i.e. "'-?' and not '-h' is the way to get
short help from any subcommand"), not the implementation to fill the
gaps for those that do not yet support '-?', I am afraid.


  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-24  0:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-15 10:02 Bug: git ls-remote -h / --head results differ in output Thomas Rikl
2017-10-15 11:08 ` Martin Ågren
2017-10-15 13:26   ` René Scharfe
2017-10-17 15:39     ` [PATCH 1/2] git: add NO_INTERNAL_HELP flag for builtins René Scharfe
2017-10-17 17:39       ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-17 15:39     ` [PATCH 2/2] ls-remote: use PARSE_OPT_NO_INTERNAL_HELP René Scharfe
2017-10-17 17:42       ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-17 17:42       ` Martin Ågren
2017-10-17 15:39     ` [Alt. PATCH] ls-remote: deprecate -h as short for --heads René Scharfe
2017-10-17 17:40       ` Martin Ågren
2017-10-17 17:43       ` Jonathan Nieder
2017-10-17 23:22       ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-19 18:26         ` René Scharfe
2017-10-19 20:32           ` Jeff King
2017-10-20  1:04             ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-20  3:05               ` Jeff King
2017-10-20  5:35                 ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-21  7:16                   ` Jeff King
2017-10-21 10:14                   ` René Scharfe
2017-10-21 12:18                     ` Junio C Hamano
2017-10-23 15:05                       ` René Scharfe
2017-10-24  0:52                         ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2017-10-24 18:26                           ` René Scharfe

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