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From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: Takashi Sakamoto <o-takashi@sakamocchi.jp>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, ffado-devel@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/39] firewire-lib: Add sort function for transmitted packet
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 09:11:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <531EC536.5020201@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <531DBE48.7040800@sakamocchi.jp>

Takashi Sakamoto wrote:
> (Mar 10 2014 06:07), Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>>> This commit add sorting of in-packets. [...]
>>
>> Only a single packet is out of order, i.e., only two packets are exchanged.
>> So it is not necessary to run a general-purpose sorting algorithm; it would
>> be sufficient to store a single packet if it is out of order.
>
> I cannot prove 'there are only two packets are exchanged'. What I can
> prove is 'the sequence of packets includes a bit disorder'.

AFAIK this error happens only on some specific devices with some
specific (now outdated) firmware versions, and two exchanged packets is
all that is actually observed.  Furthermore, hardware implementations of
IEC 16883-6 construct packets in nearly real time and _cannot_ store
many packets.

Thus, I think it is extremely unlikely that we will ever see more than
two exchanged packets.

> I think keeping packet sequence is important to all of devices.

But there is no other device with a similar bug.  I think the driver
should keep the ability to detect dropped packets.


Regards,
Clemens

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-11  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2014-03-05  6:14 ` [GIT PULL v2] Enhancement of support for Firewire devices Takashi Iwai
2014-03-05 11:00   ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 11:09     ` Takashi Iwai
2014-03-05 11:23       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:47 ` [GIT PULL][PATCH 00/39 " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 01/39] firewire-lib: Rename functions, structure, member for AMDTP Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 02/39] firewire-lib: Add macros instead of fixed value " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 03/39] firewire-lib: Add 'direction' member to 'amdtp_stream' structure Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 04/39] firewire-lib: Split some codes into functions to reuse for both streams Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 05/39] firewire-lib: Add support for AMDTP in-stream and PCM capture Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-09 20:37     ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-10  3:55       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-12  2:00       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-14 13:50       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 06/39] firewire-lib: Add support for MIDI capture/playback Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-09 20:48     ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-10  4:13       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 07/39] firewire-lib: Give syt value as parameter to handle_out_packet() Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 08/39] firewire-lib: Add support for duplex streams synchronization in blocking mode Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-09 20:55     ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-10 12:21       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 09/39] firewire-lib: Add sort function for transmitted packet Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-09 21:07     ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-10 13:29       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-11  8:11         ` Clemens Ladisch [this message]
2014-03-12  1:23           ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-12  7:21             ` Takashi Iwai
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 10/39] firewire-lib: Add transfer delay to synchronized duplex streams Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-09 21:13     ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-10 13:43       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-11  8:13         ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-05 10:47   ` [PATCH 11/39] firewire-lib: Add support for channel mapping Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-09 21:20     ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-10 12:28       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-10 12:58         ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-11  8:23         ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-11 16:03           ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 12/39] firewire-lib: Rename macros, variables and functions for CMP Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 13/39] firewire-lib: Add 'direction' member to 'cmp_connection' structure Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 14/39] firewire-lib: Add handling output connection by CMP Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-09 21:27     ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-10 12:30       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 15/39] firewire-lib: Add a new function to check others' connection Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 16/39] firewire-lib: Add some AV/C general commands Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-09 21:32     ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-10 12:46       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-14 14:10       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-14 22:18         ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 17/39] firewire-lib: Add quirks for Fireworks Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-09 21:39     ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-03-10 12:40       ` Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 18/39] firewire-lib: Add a fallback at RCODE_CANCELLED Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 19/39] fireworks: Add skelton for Fireworks based devices Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 20/39] fireworks: Add transaction and some commands Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 21/39] fireworks: Add connection and stream management Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 22/39] fireworks: Add proc interface for debugging purpose Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 23/39] fireworks: Add MIDI interface Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 24/39] fireworks: Add PCM interface Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 25/39] fireworks: Add hwdep interface Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 26/39] fireworks: Add command/response functionality into " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 27/39] bebob: Add skelton for BeBoB based devices Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 28/39] bebob: Add commands and connections/streams management Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 29/39] bebob: Add proc interface for debugging purpose Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 30/39] bebob: Add MIDI interface Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 31/39] bebob: Add PCM interface Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 32/39] bebob: Add hwdep interface Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 33/39] bebob: Prepare for device specific operations Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 34/39] bebob: Add support for Terratec PHASE, EWS series and Aureon Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 35/39] bebob: Add support for Yamaha GO series Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 36/39] bebob: Add support for Focusrite Saffire/SaffirePro series Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 37/39] bebob: Add support for M-Audio usual Firewire series Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 38/39] bebob: Add support for M-Audio special " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-05 10:48   ` [PATCH 39/39] bebob: Send a cue to load firmware for M-Audio " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-03-07 11:44 ` [GIT PULL v2] Enhancement of support for Firewire devices Takashi Iwai
2014-03-07 14:46   ` Clemens Ladisch
2014-02-28  3:27 [GIT PULL][PATCH 00/39] " Takashi Sakamoto
2014-02-28  3:27 ` [PATCH 09/39] firewire-lib: Add sort function for transmitted packet Takashi Sakamoto
2014-02-28  6:40   ` Takashi Iwai
2014-02-28 14:31     ` Takashi Sakamoto

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