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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: "Sridharan, Ranjani" <ranjani.sridharan@intel.com>
Cc: Linux-ALSA <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH 7/8] ALSA: pcm: Add card sync_irq field
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:34:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5himndrmsv.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFQqKeWVuJs+bnZsrYAHdke0pZpBSmP71RFVrfwVE3=P4A7hsw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 20:22:03 +0100,
Sridharan, Ranjani wrote:
> 
>         > >
>         > > I couldn't find anything obvious.  Could you try without changing
>         > > snd_sof_pcm_period_elapsed(), i.e. only adding the stuff and
>         calling
>         > > sync_stop, in order to see whether the additional stuff broke
>         > > anything?
>         > It is indeed the removal of snd_sof_pcm_period_elapsed() that makes
>         the
>         > device hang when the stream is stoppped. But that's a bit surprising
>         > given that all I tried was using the snd_pcm_period_elapsed()
>         directly
>         > instead of scheduling the delayed work to call it.
>        
>         If I read the code correctly, this can't work irrelevantly from the
>         sync_stop stuff.  The call of period_elapsed is from
>         hda_dsp_stream_check() which is performed in bus->reg_lock spinlock in
>         hda_dsp_stream_threaded_handler().  Meanwhile, the XRUN trigger goes
>         to hda_dsp_pcm_trigger() that follows hda_dsp_stream_trigger(), and
>         this function expects the sleepable context due to
>         snd_sof_dsp_read_poll_timeout() call.
>        
>         So something like below works?
> 
>         Takashi
>        
>         --- a/sound/soc/sof/intel/hda-stream.c
>         +++ b/sound/soc/sof/intel/hda-stream.c
>         @@ -592,8 +592,11 @@ static bool hda_dsp_stream_check(struct hdac_bus
>         *bus, u32 status)
>                                         continue;
>        
>                                 /* Inform ALSA only in case not do that with
>         IPC */
>         -                       if (sof_hda->no_ipc_position)
>         -                               snd_sof_pcm_period_elapsed(s->
>         substream);
>         +                       if (sof_hda->no_ipc_position) {
>         +                               spin_unlock_irq(&bus->reg_lock);
>         +                               snd_pcm_period_elapsed(s->substream);
>         +                               spin_lock_irq(&bus->reg_lock);
>    
>     Thanks, Takashi. Yes, I realized it this morning as well that it is due to
>     the reg_lock. It does work with this change now. I will run some stress
>     tests with this change and get back with the results.
> 
> Hi Takashi,
> 
> Sorry the stress tests took a while. 
> As we discussed earlier, adding the sync_stop() op didnt quite help the SOF
> driver in removing the delayed work for snd_pcm_period_elapsed(). 

Yeah, that's understandable.  If the stop operation itself needs some
serialization, sync_stop() won't influence at all.

However, now after these discussions, I have some concerns in the
current code:

- The async work started by schedule_work() may be executed
  (literally) immediately.  So if the timing or the serialization
  matters, it doesn't guarantee at all.  The same level of concurrency
  can happen at any time.

- The period_elapsed work might be pending at prepare or other
  operation;
  the async work means also that it doesn't guarantee its execution in
  time, and it might be delayed much, and the PCM core might go to
  prepare or other state even before the work is executed.

The second point can be fixed easily now with sync_stop.  You can just
put flush_work() in sync_stop in addition to synchronize_irq().

But the first point is still unclear.  More exactly, which operation
does it conflict?  Does it the playback drain?  Then it might take
very long (up to seconds) to block the next operation?


thanks,

Takashi
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-21 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-17  8:53 [alsa-devel] [PATCH 0/8] ALSA: pcm: API cleanups and extensions Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 1/8] ALSA: pcm: Introduce managed buffer allocation mode Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 16:24   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-11-18 18:46     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 2/8] ALSA: docs: Update for " Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 3/8] ALSA: pcm: Allow NULL ioctl ops Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 4/8] ALSA: docs: Update document about the default PCM " Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 5/8] ALSA: pcm: Move PCM_RUNTIME_CHECK() macro into local header Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  9:42   ` kbuild test robot
2019-11-17 10:05     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17 10:28   ` kbuild test robot
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 6/8] ALSA: pcm: Add the support for sync-stop operation Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 16:33   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-11-18 18:47     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 7/8] ALSA: pcm: Add card sync_irq field Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 16:38   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-11-18 18:52     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 19:20       ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-18 19:49         ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 19:55           ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-18 20:40             ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-18 23:47               ` Ranjani Sridharan
2019-11-19  6:44                 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-19  7:40                   ` Ranjani Sridharan
2019-11-19  8:24                     ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-19  9:39                       ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-19 16:36                       ` Ranjani Sridharan
2019-11-19 21:27                         ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-19 21:43                           ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-21 19:22                             ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-21 20:34                               ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2019-11-21 20:46                                 ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-21 21:13                                   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-21 21:17                                     ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-21 21:28                                       ` Takashi Iwai
2019-11-21 21:45                                         ` Sridharan, Ranjani
2019-11-22  4:08                                     ` Jie, Yang
2019-11-17  8:53 ` [alsa-devel] [PATCH 8/8] ALSA: docs: Update about the new PCM sync_stop ops Takashi Iwai

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