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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Networking <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <borkmann@iogearbox.net>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf 1/3] bpf: syscall to start at file-descriptor 1
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 21:44:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200608214437.5f7766ab@carbon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzagW8GFfybMf10yorwTA+fpiuZHqT41Uu-vAsRHnZqKRw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 11:36:33 -0700
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 9:51 AM Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > This patch change BPF syscall to avoid returning file descriptor value zero.
> >
> > As mentioned in cover letter, it is very impractical when extending kABI
> > that the file-descriptor value 'zero' is valid, as this requires new fields
> > must be initialised as minus-1. First step is to change the kernel such that
> > BPF-syscall simply doesn't return value zero as a FD number.
> >
> > This patch achieves this by similar code to anon_inode_getfd(), with the
> > exception of getting unused FD starting from 1. The kernel already supports
> > starting from a specific FD value, as this is used by f_dupfd(). It seems
> > simpler to replicate part of anon_inode_getfd() code and use this start from
> > offset feature, instead of using f_dupfd() handling afterwards.  
> 
> Wouldn't it be better to just handle that on libbpf side? That way it
> works on all kernels and doesn't require this duplication of logic
> inside kernel?

IMHO this is needed on the kernel side, to pair it with the API change.
I don't see how doing this in libbpf can cover all cases.

First of all, some users might not be using libbpf.

Second, a userspace application could be using an older version of
libbpf on a newer kernel. (Notice this is not only due to older
distros, but also because projects using git submodule libbpf will
freeze at some point in time that worked).

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-08 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-08 16:51 [PATCH bpf 0/3] bpf: avoid using/returning file descriptor value zero Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-08 16:51 ` [PATCH bpf 1/3] bpf: syscall to start at file-descriptor 1 Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-08 18:28   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-06-08 18:36   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-06-08 19:44     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2020-06-08 20:05       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-06-08 19:00   ` kernel test robot
2020-06-08 19:55   ` kernel test robot
2020-06-08 19:55   ` [RFC PATCH] bpf: bpf_anon_inode_getfd() can be static kernel test robot
2020-06-08 20:42   ` [PATCH bpf 1/3] bpf: syscall to start at file-descriptor 1 kernel test robot
2020-06-08 16:51 ` [PATCH bpf 2/3] bpf: devmap adjust uapi for attach bpf program Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-08 18:30   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-06-08 16:51 ` [PATCH bpf 3/3] bpf: selftests and tools use struct bpf_devmap_val from uapi Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-09  1:34 ` [PATCH bpf 0/3] bpf: avoid using/returning file descriptor value zero Alexei Starovoitov
2020-06-09  9:55   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-09 13:31   ` [PATCH bpf V2 0/2] bpf: adjust uapi for devmap prior to kernel release Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-09 13:31     ` [PATCH bpf V2 1/2] bpf: devmap adjust uapi for attach bpf program Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-09 13:47       ` David Ahern
2020-06-09 15:12         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-09 13:31     ` [PATCH bpf V2 2/2] bpf: selftests and tools use struct bpf_devmap_val from uapi Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-06-09 19:03     ` [PATCH bpf V2 0/2] bpf: adjust uapi for devmap prior to kernel release Alexei Starovoitov

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