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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
	"Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@google.com>,
	"Hao Luo" <haoluo@google.com>, "Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] bpf: test_run: Use system page pool for XDP live frame mode
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 13:23:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a0db8a6-6d73-48a6-8824-3191657ff11a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sf1lzxdb.fsf@toke.dk>



On 21/02/2024 15.48, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> The cookie is a random 128-bit value, which means the probability that
>> we will get accidental collisions (which would lead to recycling the
>> wrong page values and reading garbage) is on the order of 2^-128. This
>> is in the "won't happen before the heat death of the universe" range, so
>> this marking is safe for the intended usage.
> 
> Alright, got a second opinion on this from someone better at security
> than me; I'll go try out some different ideas :)

It is a general security concern for me that BPF test_run gets access to
memory used by 'system page pool', with the concern of leaking data
(from real traffic) to an attacker than can inject a BPF test_run
program via e.g. a CI pipeline.

I'm not saying we leaking data today in BPF/XDP progs, but there is a
potential, because to gain performance in XDP and page_pool we don't
clear memory to avoid cache line performance issues.
I guess today, I could BPF tail extend and read packet data from older
frames, in this way, if I get access to 'system page pool'.

--Jesper

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-04 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-20 21:03 [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] Change BPF_TEST_RUN use the system page pool for live XDP frames Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-20 21:03 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] net: Register system page pool as an XDP memory model Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-04-03 20:20   ` John Fastabend
2024-04-04  9:08     ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-02-20 21:03 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] bpf: test_run: Use system page pool for XDP live frame mode Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-21 14:48   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-04-04 11:23     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2024-04-04 13:34       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-04-03 16:34   ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-04-03 20:39     ` John Fastabend
2024-04-04 11:43       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-04-04 13:09         ` Alexander Lobakin
2024-02-20 21:03 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/4] bpf: test_run: Fix cacheline alignment of live XDP frame data structures Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-02-21 14:45 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] Change BPF_TEST_RUN use the system page pool for live XDP frames Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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