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From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>,
	brouer@redhat.com, bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	xdp-hints@xdp-project.net, larysa.zaremba@intel.com,
	memxor@gmail.com, Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	mtahhan@redhat.com,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <borkmann@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	dave@dtucker.co.uk, Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@intel.com>,
	bjorn@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 00/18] XDP-hints: XDP gaining access to HW offload hints via BTF
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 19:15:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKH8qBtTPNULZDLd2n1r2o7XZwvs_q5OkNqhdq0A+b5zkHRNMw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221004182451.6804b8ca@kernel.org>

On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 6:24 PM Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 18:02:56 -0700 Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> > +1, sounds like a good alternative (got your reply while typing)
> > I'm not too versed in the rx_desc/rx_queue area, but seems like worst
> > case that bpf_xdp_get_hwtstamp can probably receive a xdp_md ctx and
> > parse it out from the pre-populated metadata?
>
> I'd think so, worst case the driver can put xdp_md into a struct
> and container_of() to get to its own stack with whatever fields
> it needs.

Ack, seems like something worth exploring then.

The only issue I see with that is that we'd probably have to extend
the loading api to pass target xdp device so we can pre-generate
per-device bytecode for those kfuncs? And this potentially will block
attaching the same program to different drivers/devices?
Or, Martin, did you maybe have something better in mind?

> > Btw, do we also need to think about the redirect case? What happens
> > when I redirect one frame from a device A with one metadata format to
> > a device B with another?
>
> If there is a program on Tx then it'd be trivial - just do the
> info <-> descriptor translation in the opposite direction than Rx.
> TBH I'm not sure how it'd be done in the current approach, either.

Yeah, I don't think it magically works in any case. I'm just trying to
understand whether it's something we care to support out of the box or
can punt to the bpf programs themselves and say "if you care about
forwarding metadata, somehow agree on the format yourself".

> Now I questioned the BTF way and mentioned the Tx-side program in
> a single thread, I better stop talking...

Forget about btf, hail to the new king - kfunc :-D

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-05  2:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-07 15:45 [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 00/18] XDP-hints: XDP gaining access to HW offload hints via BTF Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 01/18] libbpf: factor out BTF loading from load_module_btfs() Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 02/18] libbpf: try to load vmlinux BTF from the kernel first Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 03/18] libbpf: patch module BTF obj+type ID into BPF insns Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 04/18] net: create xdp_hints_common and set functions Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-09 10:49   ` Burakov, Anatoly
2022-09-09 14:13     ` [xdp-hints] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 05/18] net: add net_device feature flag for XDP-hints Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 06/18] xdp: controlling XDP-hints from BPF-prog via helper Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 07/18] i40e: Refactor i40e_ptp_rx_hwtstamp Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 08/18] i40e: refactor i40e_rx_checksum with helper Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 09/18] bpf: export btf functions for modules Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 10/18] btf: Add helper for kernel modules to lookup full BTF ID Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:45 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 11/18] i40e: add XDP-hints handling Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:46 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 12/18] net: use XDP-hints in xdp_frame to SKB conversion Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:46 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 13/18] mvneta: add XDP-hints support Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:46 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 14/18] i40e: Add xdp_hints_union Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:46 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 15/18] ixgbe: enable xdp-hints Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:46 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 16/18] ixgbe: add rx timestamp xdp hints support Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-07 15:46 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 17/18] xsk: AF_XDP xdp-hints support in desc options Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-08  8:06   ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-09-08 10:10     ` Maryam Tahhan
2022-09-08 15:04       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-09  6:43         ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-09-09  8:12           ` Maryam Tahhan
2022-09-09  9:42             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-09 10:14               ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-09-09 12:35                 ` [xdp-hints] " Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-09 12:44                   ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-09-07 15:46 ` [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 18/18] ixgbe: AF_XDP xdp-hints processing in ixgbe_clean_rx_irq_zc Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-09-08  9:30 ` [xdp-hints] [PATCH RFCv2 bpf-next 00/18] XDP-hints: XDP gaining access to HW offload hints via BTF Alexander Lobakin
2022-09-09 13:48   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-10-03 23:55 ` sdf
2022-10-04  9:29   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-10-04 18:26     ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-10-05  0:25       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-10-05  0:59         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-05  1:02           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2022-10-05  1:24             ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-05  2:15               ` Stanislav Fomichev [this message]
2022-10-05 19:26                 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-10-06  9:14                   ` Magnus Karlsson
2022-10-06 15:29                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-10-11  6:29                       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2022-10-11 11:57                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-10-05 10:06             ` [xdp-hints] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-10-05 18:47               ` sdf
2022-10-06  8:19                 ` Maryam Tahhan
2022-10-06 17:22                   ` sdf
2022-10-05 14:19             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-10-06 14:59               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-05 13:43         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-10-05 16:29       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-10-05 18:43         ` sdf
2022-10-06 17:47           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2022-10-07 15:05             ` [xdp-hints] " David Ahern
2022-10-05 13:14     ` Burakov, Anatoly

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