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From: Lorenz Bauer <lmb@isovalent.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	martin.lau@kernel.org, timo@incline.eu,
	robin.goegge@isovalent.com, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 4/6] libbpf: don't enforce verifier log levels on libbpf side
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:12:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN+4W8h4QwvVcKkfTGOKAug2wnbZi5t5GyXXK0VWoobrNo1jpA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230328235610.3159943-5-andrii@kernel.org>

On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 12:56 AM Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> This basically prevents any forward compatibility. And we either way
> just return -EINVAL, which would otherwise be returned from bpf()
> syscall anyways.

In your cover letter you make the argument that applications can opt
out of the behaviour, but I think shows that this isn't entirely true.
Apps linking old libbpf won't be able to fix their breakage without
updating libbpf. This is especially annoying when you have to support
multiple old versions where doing this isn't straightforward.

Take this as another plea to make this opt in and instead work
together to make this a default on the lib side. :)

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-30 17:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-28 23:56 [PATCH v2 bpf-next 0/6] BPF verifier rotating log Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-28 23:56 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 1/6] bpf: split off basic BPF verifier log into separate file Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-30 17:12   ` Lorenz Bauer
2023-03-28 23:56 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 2/6] bpf: remove minimum size restrictions on verifier log buffer Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-30 17:12   ` Lorenz Bauer
2023-03-30 20:48     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-28 23:56 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 3/6] bpf: switch BPF verifier log to be a rotating log by default Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-30 17:12   ` Lorenz Bauer
2023-03-30 20:48     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-04-05 17:29       ` Lorenz Bauer
2023-04-05 18:03         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-28 23:56 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 4/6] libbpf: don't enforce verifier log levels on libbpf side Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-30 17:12   ` Lorenz Bauer [this message]
2023-03-30 21:05     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-31  9:39       ` Timo Beckers
2023-03-31 15:59         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-28 23:56 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/6] libbpf: don't enfore " Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-28 23:56 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 5/6] selftests/bpf: add more veristat control over verifier log options Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-28 23:56 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 6/6] selftests/bpf: add fixed vs rotating verifier log tests Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-30 17:12   ` Lorenz Bauer
2023-03-30 21:07     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-28 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 bpf-next 0/6] BPF verifier rotating log Andrii Nakryiko
2023-03-30  5:38   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-03-30  9:31     ` Lorenz Bauer

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