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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 01/18] vfs: export new_inode_pseudo
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 09:12:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200909161242.GA828@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6cfe023df5cf6c50d6197bb7c71b3fa6a51bf555.camel@kernel.org>

On Wed, Sep 09, 2020 at 06:47:28AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-09-08 at 15:31 -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 08, 2020 at 07:27:58AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2020-09-07 at 20:38 -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:05:20PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > > Ceph needs to be able to allocate inodes ahead of a create that might
> > > > > involve a fscrypt-encrypted inode. new_inode() almost fits the bill,
> > > > > but it puts the inode on the sb->s_inodes list, and we don't want to
> > > > > do that until we're ready to insert it into the hash.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  fs/inode.c | 1 +
> > > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/fs/inode.c b/fs/inode.c
> > > > > index 72c4c347afb7..61554c2477ab 100644
> > > > > --- a/fs/inode.c
> > > > > +++ b/fs/inode.c
> > > > > @@ -935,6 +935,7 @@ struct inode *new_inode_pseudo(struct super_block *sb)
> > > > >  	}
> > > > >  	return inode;
> > > > >  }
> > > > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL(new_inode_pseudo);
> > > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > What's the problem with putting the new inode on sb->s_inodes already?
> > > > That's what all the other filesystems do.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > The existing ones are all local filesystems that use
> > > insert_inode_locked() and similar paths. Ceph needs to use the '5'
> > > variants of those functions (inode_insert5(), iget5_locked(), etc.).
> > > 
> > > When we go to insert it into the hash in inode_insert5(), we'd need to
> > > set I_CREATING if allocated from new_inode(). But, if you do _that_,
> > > then you'll get back ESTALE from find_inode() if (eg.) someone calls
> > > iget5_locked() before you can clear I_CREATING.
> > > 
> > > Hitting that race is easy with an asynchronous create. The simplest
> > > scheme to avoid that is to just export new_inode_pseudo and keep it off
> > > of s_inodes until we're ready to do the insert. The only real issue here
> > > is that this inode won't be findable by evict_inodes during umount, but
> > > that shouldn't be happening during an active syscall anyway.
> > 
> > Is your concern the following scenario?
> > 
> > 1. ceph successfully created a new file on the server
> > 2. inode_insert5() is called for the new file's inode
> > 3. error occurs in ceph_fill_inode()
> > 4. discard_new_inode() is called
> > 5. another thread looks up the inode and gets ESTALE
> > 6. iput() is finally called
> > 
> > And the claim is that the ESTALE in (5) is unexpected?  I'm not sure that it's
> > unexpected, given that the file allegedly failed to be created...  Also, it
> > seems that maybe (3) isn't something that should actually happen, since after
> > (1) it's too late to fail the file creation.
> > 
> 
> No, more like:
> 
> Syscall					Workqueue
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1. allocate an inode
> 2. determine we can do an async create
>    and allocate an inode number for it
> 3. hash the inode (must set I_CREATING
>    if we allocated with new_inode()) 
> 4. issue the call to the MDS
> 5. finish filling out the inode()
> 6.					MDS reply comes in, and workqueue thread
> 					looks up new inode (-ESTALE)
> 7. unlock_new_inode()
> 
> 
> Because 6 happens before 7 in this case, we get an ESTALE on that
> lookup.

How is ESTALE at (6) possible?  (3) will set I_NEW on the inode when inserting
it into the inode hash table.  Then (6) will wait for I_NEW to be cleared before
returning the inode.  (7) will clear I_NEW and I_CREATING together.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-09 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-04 16:05 [RFC PATCH v2 00/18] ceph+fscrypt: context, filename and symlink support Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/18] vfs: export new_inode_pseudo Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  3:38   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-08 11:27     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-08 22:31       ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-09 10:47         ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-09 16:12           ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2020-09-09 16:51             ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-09 18:49               ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-09 19:24                 ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/18] fscrypt: drop unused inode argument from fscrypt_fname_alloc_buffer Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] fscrypt: export fscrypt_d_revalidate Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/18] fscrypt: add fscrypt_new_context_from_inode Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  3:48   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-08 11:29     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-08 12:29     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-08 22:34       ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] fscrypt: don't balk when inode is already marked encrypted Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  3:52   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-08 12:54     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-08 23:08       ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/18] fscrypt: move nokey_name conversion to separate function and export it Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  3:55   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-08 12:50     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-08 22:53       ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-09 16:02         ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/18] lib: lift fscrypt base64 conversion into lib/ Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  3:59   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-08 12:51     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/18] ceph: add fscrypt ioctls Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/18] ceph: crypto context handling for ceph Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  4:29   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-08 16:14     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/18] ceph: preallocate inode for ops that may create one Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/18] ceph: add routine to create context prior to RPC Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  4:43   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/18] ceph: set S_ENCRYPTED bit if new inode has encryption.ctx xattr Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  4:57   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-09 12:20     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-09 15:53     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-09 16:33       ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-09 17:19         ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/18] ceph: make ceph_msdc_build_path use ref-walk Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/18] ceph: add encrypted fname handling to ceph_mdsc_build_path Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  5:06   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-09 12:24     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/18] ceph: make d_revalidate call fscrypt revalidator for encrypted dentries Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  5:12   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-09 12:26     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-09 16:18       ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/18] ceph: add support to readdir for encrypted filenames Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  5:34   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-09 13:02     ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] ceph: add fscrypt support to ceph_fill_trace Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/18] ceph: create symlinks with encrypted and base64-encoded targets Jeff Layton
2020-09-04 16:11   ` Jeff Layton
2020-09-08  5:43   ` Eric Biggers
2020-09-08  5:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/18] ceph+fscrypt: context, filename and symlink support Eric Biggers
2020-09-08 12:09   ` Jeff Layton

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