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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] vfs: prevent copy_file_range to copy across devices
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 19:24:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxgPtqG6eTi2AnAV4jTAaNDbeez+Xi2858mz1KLGMFntfg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73ab4951f48d69f0183548c7a82f7ae37e286d1c.camel@hammerspace.com>

On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 6:53 PM Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2021-02-15 at 18:34 +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 5:42 PM Luis Henriques <lhenriques@suse.de>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Nicolas Boichat reported an issue when trying to use the
> > > copy_file_range
> > > syscall on a tracefs file.  It failed silently because the file
> > > content is
> > > generated on-the-fly (reporting a size of zero) and copy_file_range
> > > needs
> > > to know in advance how much data is present.
> > >
> > > This commit restores the cross-fs restrictions that existed prior
> > > to
> > > 5dae222a5ff0 ("vfs: allow copy_file_range to copy across devices")
> > > and
> > > removes generic_copy_file_range() calls from ceph, cifs, fuse, and
> > > nfs.
> > >
> > > Fixes: 5dae222a5ff0 ("vfs: allow copy_file_range to copy across
> > > devices")
> > > Link:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fsdevel/20210212044405.4120619-1-drinkcat@chromium.org/
> > > Cc: Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Luis Henriques <lhenriques@suse.de>
> >
> > Code looks ok.
> > You may add:
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
> >
> > I agree with Trond that the first paragraph of the commit message
> > could
> > be improved.
> > The purpose of this change is to fix the change of behavior that
> > caused the regression.
> >
> > Before v5.3, behavior was -EXDEV and userspace could fallback to
> > read.
> > After v5.3, behavior is zero size copy.
> >
> > It does not matter so much what makes sense for CFR to do in this
> > case (generic cross-fs copy).  What matters is that nobody asked for
> > this change and that it caused problems.
> >
>
> No. I'm saying that this patch should be NACKed unless there is a real
> explanation for why we give crap about this tracefs corner case and why
> it can't be fixed.
>
> There are plenty of reasons why copy offload across filesystems makes
> sense, and particularly when you're doing NAS. Clone just doesn't cut
> it when it comes to disaster recovery (whereas backup to a different
> storage unit does). If the client has to do the copy, then you're
> effectively doubling the load on the server, and you're adding
> potentially unnecessary network traffic (or at the very least you are
> doubling that traffic).
>

I don't understand the use case you are describing.

Which filesystem types are you talking about for source and target
of copy_file_range()?

To be clear, the original change was done to support NFS/CIFS server-side
copy and those should not be affected by this change.

Thanks,
Amir.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-15 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAOQ4uxiFGjdvX2-zh5o46pn7RZhvbGHH0wpzLPuPOom91FwWeQ@mail.gmail.com>
2021-02-15 15:43 ` [PATCH v2] vfs: prevent copy_file_range to copy across devices Luis Henriques
2021-02-15 16:02   ` Trond Myklebust
2021-02-16  0:25     ` Steve French
2021-02-15 16:34   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-15 16:53     ` Trond Myklebust
2021-02-15 17:24       ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2021-02-15 18:57         ` Trond Myklebust
2021-02-15 19:43           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-16 11:17             ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-16 11:28               ` gregkh
2021-02-16 12:01                 ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-16 12:08                   ` Greg KH
2021-02-16 13:51               ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-16 16:42                 ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-16 17:44                   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-16 18:55                     ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-16 19:20                       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-16 19:27                         ` Anna Schumaker
2021-02-16 19:31                           ` Steve French
2021-02-16 19:40                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-16 21:15                               ` Steve French
2021-02-17  8:08                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-17 17:26                                   ` [PATCH v3] vfs: fix copy_file_range regression in cross-fs copies Luis Henriques
2021-02-17 20:47                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18  0:56                                     ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-18  5:32                                     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-02-18  6:47                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18 16:28                                         ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-02-18  7:43                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-18  0:50                                   ` [PATCH v2] vfs: prevent copy_file_range to copy across devices Andreas Dilger
2021-02-18  7:34                                     ` gregkh
2021-02-16 18:54                 ` Andreas Dilger
2021-02-17  4:45   ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-18  7:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-02-18  9:10     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18 10:29       ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-18 12:15         ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-18 12:49           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18 14:36             ` [PATCH v4] vfs: fix copy_file_range regression in cross-fs copies Luis Henriques
2021-02-18 14:58               ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18 15:17                 ` [PATCH v5] " Luis Henriques
2021-02-18 15:53                   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-18 16:35                     ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-18 17:18                       ` [PATCH v6] " Luis Henriques
2021-02-19 21:18                         ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-02-19 21:52                           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-21 19:58                           ` [PATCH v7] " Luis Henriques
2021-02-22  3:00                             ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-02-22 10:24                             ` [PATCH v8] " Luis Henriques
2021-02-22 10:46                               ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-22 16:25                               ` dai.ngo
2021-02-23 10:32                                 ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-23 15:28                                   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-23 15:29                                   ` dai.ngo
2021-02-23 16:02                                     ` dai.ngo
2021-02-23 16:47                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-23 16:57                                         ` dai.ngo
     [not found]                                           ` <e3eed18b-fc7e-e687-608b-7f662017329c@oracle.com>
2021-02-23 17:33                                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-24  0:13                                               ` dai.ngo
2021-02-23 17:56                                           ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-23 17:13                                       ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-02-24  1:00                               ` Olga Kornievskaia
2021-02-24 10:23                                 ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-24 10:44                                   ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-04-09  5:23                                     ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-04-09 13:39                                       ` Luis Henriques
2021-04-09 13:50                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-23  4:40                                           ` Nicolas Boichat
2021-05-03  8:54                                             ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-24 14:23                               ` [PATCH] copy_file_range.2: Kernel v5.12 updates Luis Henriques
2021-02-24 16:10                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-25 10:21                                   ` Luis Henriques
2021-02-26 10:13                                     ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-02-26 10:34                                       ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-26 11:15                                         ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-02-26 13:59                                           ` Jeff Layton
2021-02-26 21:26                                             ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-02-26 22:18                                   ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-02-27  5:41                                     ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-27 12:20                                       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-02-27 13:49                                         ` [RFC v2] copy_file_range.2: Update cross-filesystem support for 5.12 Alejandro Colomar
2021-02-27 16:00                                           ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-27 23:08                                       ` [PATCH] copy_file_range.2: Kernel v5.12 updates Steve French
2021-02-28  7:35                                         ` Amir Goldstein
2021-02-28 22:25                                           ` Steve French
2021-03-01  6:18                                             ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-01 14:41                                 ` [RFC v3] copy_file_range.2: Update cross-filesystem support for 5.12 Alejandro Colomar
2021-03-01 14:58                                   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-04  9:38                                 ` [RFC v4] " Alejandro Colomar
2021-03-04 17:13                                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-03-04 18:24                                     ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-03-04 23:50                                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-02-18 20:41       ` [PATCH v2] vfs: prevent copy_file_range to copy across devices Steve French

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