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From: Benjamin Marzinski <bmarzins@redhat.com>
To: Martin Wilck <mwilck@suse.com>
Cc: lixiaokeng@huawei.com, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Chongyun Wu <wu.chongyun@h3c.com>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 31/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: add idle notification
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 10:06:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210916150638.GX3087@octiron.msp.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <541494688720eb07d17f73e41a7877718208ea10.camel@suse.com>

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:54:19AM +0200, Martin Wilck wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-09-15 at 23:14 -0500, Benjamin Marzinski wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 01:41:16PM +0200, mwilck@suse.com wrote:
> > > From: Martin Wilck <mwilck@suse.com>
> > > 
> > > The previous patches added the state machine and the timeout
> > > handling,
> > > but there was no wakeup mechanism for the uxlsnr for cases where
> > > client connections were waiting for the vecs lock.
> > > 
> > > This patch uses the previously introduced wakeup mechanism of
> > > struct mutex_lock for this purpose. Processes which unlock the
> > > "global" vecs lock send an event in an eventfd which the uxlsnr
> > > loop is polling for.
> > > 
> > > As we are now woken up for servicing client handlers that don't
> > > wait for input but for the lock, we need to set up the pollfds
> > > differently, and iterate over all clients when handling events,
> > > not only over the ones that are receiving. The hangup handling
> > > is changed, too. We have to look at every client, even if one has
> > > hung up. Note that I don't take client_lock for the loop in
> > > uxsock_listen(), it's not necessary and will be removed elsewhere
> > > in a follow-up patch.
> > > 
> > > With this in place, the lock need not be taken in execute_handler()
> > > any more. The uxlsnr only ever calls trylock() on the vecs lock,
> > > avoiding any waiting for other threads to finish.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Martin Wilck <mwilck@suse.com>
> > > ---
> > >  multipathd/uxlsnr.c | 211 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------------
> > > --
> > >  1 file changed, 143 insertions(+), 68 deletions(-)
> > > 
> 
> > 
> > I do worry that if there are, for instance, a lot of uevents coming in,
> > this could starve the uxlsnr thread, since other threads could be
> > grabbing and releasing the vecs lock, but if it's usually being held,
> > then the uxlsnr thread might never try to grab it when it's free, and
> > it
> > will keep losing its place in line. Also, every time that the vecs lock
> > is dropped between ppoll() calls, a wakeup will get triggered, even if
> > the lock was grabbed by something else before the ppoll thread runs.
> 
> I've thought about this too. It's true that the ppoll ->
> pthread_mutex_trylock() sequence will never acquire the lock if some
> other thread calls lock() at the same time.
> 
> If multiple processes call lock(), the "winner" of the lock is random.
> Thus in a way this change actually adds some predictablity: the uxlsnr
> will step back if some other process is actively trying to grab the
> lock. IMO that the right thing to do in almost all situations.
> 
> We don't need to worry about "thundering herd" issues because the
> number of threads that might wait on the lock is rather small. In the
> worst case, 3 threads (checker, dmevents handler and uevent dispatcher,
> plus the uxlsnr in ppoll()) wait for the lock at the same time. Usually
> one of them will have it grabbed. On systems that lack dmevent polling,
> the number of waiter threads may be higher, but AFAICS it's a very rare
> condition to have hundreds of dmevents delivered to different maps
> simultaneously, and if it happens, it's probably correct to have them
> serviced quickly.
> 
> The uevent dispatcher doesn't hold the lock, it's taken and released
> for every event handled. Thus uxlsnr has a real chance to jump in
> between uevents. The same holds for the dmevents thread, it takes the
> lock separately for every map affected. The only piece of code that
> holds the lock for an extended period of time (except reconfigure(),
> where it's unavoidable) is the path checker (that's bad, and next on
> the todo list).
> 
> The really "important" commands (shutdown, reconfigure) don't take the
> lock and return immediately; the lock is no issue for them. I don't see
> any other cli command that needs to be served before uevents or dm
> events.
> 
> I haven't been able to test this on huge configurations with 1000s of
> LUNs, but I tested with artificial delays in checker loop, uevent
> handlers, and dmevent handler, and lots of clients querying the daemon
> in parallel, and saw that clients were handled very nicely. Some
> timeouts are inevitable (e.g. if the checker simply holds the lock
> longer than the uxsock_timeout), but that is no regression.
> 
> Bottom line: I believe that because this patch reduces the busy-wait
> time, clients will be served more reliably and more quickly than before
> (more precisely: both average and standard deviation of the service
> delay will be improved wrt before, and timeouts occur less frequently).
> I encourage everyone to experiment and see if reality shows that I'm
> wrong.
> 
> > I suppose the only way to deal with that would be to move the locking
> > commands to a list handled by a separate thread, so that it could block
> > without stalling the non-locking commands.
> 
> Not sure if I understand correctly, just in case: non-locking commands
> are never stalled with my patch.

I realize. I was saying that you could avoid starvation while still
allowing non-locking commands to complete by moving the locking commands
to a seperate thread, which did block on the lock. I didn't consider a
ticketing system. Ideally, the checker loop would have the lowest
priority, Since it isn't responding to any event, and ususally is just
verifiying that nothing has changed.  But you do make a good point that
when we are getting a lot of events, and the uxlsnr loop has a chance of
getting starved, we probably want to prioritize the event handling
anyway.

-Ben

> 
> Introducing a new thread is something I wouldn't want to do. We can
> discuss adding ticketing to the lock, but I am not convinced that it'd
> be worth the effort, and I'm not even sure it's what we want (we'd need
> to make sure the uevent dispatcher isn't starved, which would be worse
> than starved clients). If you want ticketing, I'd like to put it in a
> patch on top rather than merging it into this one (it would need very
> careful engineering and take time).
> 
> > 
> > > +                       if (!pl.held) {
> > > +                               condlog(4, "%s: cli[%d] waiting for
> > > lock",
> > > +                                       __func__, c->fd);
> > > +                               return;
> > > +                       } else
> > > +                               condlog(4, "%s: cli[%d] grabbed
> > > lock",
> > > +                                       __func__, c->fd);
> > > +               }
> > >                 set_client_state(c, CLT_WORK);
> > >                 /* fallthrough */
> > >  
> > 
> > We should never return to uxsock_listen() while the lock is held. The
> > code doesn't, but the fact that CLT_WORK is a separate state makes it
> > look like this could be possible.  Since we must never be in CLT_WORK
> > without first being in CLT_WAIT_LOCK, I don't see any point for having
> > a
> > separate CLT_WAIT_LOCK state.  CLT_WORK should do both the locking if
> > necessary, and calling the handler.
> 
> The reason for adding this state was that non-locking commands switch
> to CLT_WORK immediately, and locking commands don't. But it's true that
> this state is never visible outside the state machine, so we can drop
> it. Actually the state that's never visible is CLT_WORK, because it
> switches to CLT_SEND immediately. I'll think about it and drop one.
> 
> Regards
> Martin
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-17  6:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-10 11:40 [dm-devel] [PATCH 00/35] multipathd: uxlsnr overhaul mwilck
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 01/35] libmultipath: add timespeccmp() utility function mwilck
2021-09-15 22:07   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 02/35] libmultipath: add trylock() helper mwilck
2021-09-15 22:07   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 03/35] libmultipath: add optional wakeup functionality to lock.c mwilck
2021-09-15 22:13   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 04/35] libmultipath: print: add __snprint_config() mwilck
2021-09-15 22:14   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 05/35] libmultipath: improve cleanup of uevent queues on exit mwilck
2021-09-15 22:20   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-16  7:10     ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-16 14:26       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 06/35] multipathd: fix systemd notification when stopping while reloading mwilck
2021-09-15 22:55   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 07/35] multipathd: improve delayed reconfigure mwilck
2021-09-15 23:00   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-16  7:16     ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 08/35] multipathd: cli.h: formatting improvements mwilck
2021-09-15 23:01   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 09/35] multipathd: cli_del_map: fix reply for delayed action mwilck
2021-09-15 23:40   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 10/35] multipathd: add prototype for cli_handler functions mwilck
2021-09-15 23:53   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 11/35] multipathd: make all cli_handlers static mwilck
2021-09-15 23:53   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 12/35] multipathd: add and set cli_handlers in a single step mwilck
2021-09-16  0:01   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-16  7:22     ` Martin Wilck
2021-11-12 21:45     ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 13/35] multipathd: cli.c: use ESRCH for "command not found" mwilck
2021-09-16  0:02   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:40 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 14/35] multipathd: add "force_reconfigure" option mwilck
2021-09-16  0:13   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-16  7:34     ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-16 14:32       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 15/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: avoid stalled clients during reconfigure mwilck
2021-09-16  2:17   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 16/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: handle client HUP mwilck
2021-09-16  2:17   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 17/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: use symbolic values for pollfd indices mwilck
2021-09-16  2:18   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 18/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: avoid using fd -1 in ppoll() mwilck
2021-09-16  2:18   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 19/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: data structure for stateful client connection mwilck
2021-09-16  2:19   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 20/35] multipathd: move uxsock_trigger() to uxlsnr.c mwilck
2021-09-16  2:19   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 21/35] multipathd: move parse_cmd() " mwilck
2021-09-16  2:19   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 22/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: remove check_timeout() mwilck
2021-09-16  2:21   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 23/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: move client handling to separate function mwilck
2021-09-16  2:21   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 24/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: use main poll loop for receiving mwilck
2021-09-16  2:22   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 25/35] multipathd: use strbuf in cli_handler functions mwilck
2021-09-16  2:23   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 26/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: check root on connection startup mwilck
2021-09-16  2:23   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 27/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: pass struct client to uxsock_trigger() and parse_cmd() mwilck
2021-09-16  2:28   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 28/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: move handler execution to separate function mwilck
2021-09-16  2:28   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 29/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: use parser to determine non-root commands mwilck
2021-09-16  2:29   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 30/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: merge uxsock_trigger() into state machine mwilck
2021-09-16  3:32   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-16  8:02     ` Martin Wilck
2021-11-12 22:07     ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 31/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: add idle notification mwilck
2021-09-16  4:14   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-16  8:54     ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-16 15:06       ` Benjamin Marzinski [this message]
2021-09-16 15:54         ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-16 16:10           ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 32/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: add timeout handling mwilck
2021-09-16  4:17   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-16  8:58     ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-16 15:08       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 33/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: use poll loop for sending, too mwilck
2021-09-16  4:22   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-16  9:33     ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-16 15:26       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 34/35] multipathd: uxlsnr: drop client_lock mwilck
2021-09-16  4:24   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-09-16  9:34     ` Martin Wilck
2021-09-10 11:41 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 35/35] multipathd: uxclt: allow client mode for non-root, too mwilck
2021-09-16  4:24   ` Benjamin Marzinski

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