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From: Martin Wilck <martin.wilck@suse.com>
To: "wucy11@chinatelecom.cn" <wucy11@chinatelecom.cn>,
	"bmarzins@redhat.com" <bmarzins@redhat.com>
Cc: "dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 2/2] multipathd: add recheck_wwid_time option to verify the path wwid
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 10:46:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7fe1a67f01849cb514f4ce3130715ac6f5d7709f.camel@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e930e111-d98d-bae2-baad-501c2c591d02@chinatelecom.cn>

On Thu, 2021-02-18 at 11:22 +0800, Chongyun Wu wrote:
> > 
> > I wasn't aware of multiple affected users. I saw Chongyun's post
> > and it
> > looked to me as if this had happend once, likely in his
> > organization.
> > It wasn't even clear to me whether production data were affected.
> > 
> Had customers have made incorrect storage back-end operations during
> the 
> expansion process, which has caused the destruction of customer data,
> which 
> cannot be repaired using any tools. And I reproduce it in our lab
> too.
> Customers definitely hope that multipath-tools can probide protection
> in
> this case, becuase if it is important custmer data storage in the
> LUN, the
> loss will be great.

I understand that. My concern was that it's still just quite a weak
protection, because it depends on the check time interval being short
enough to catch the change. So in a way, this pretends to offer safety
that doesn't truly exist. If the user assigns the wrong WWID 30s after
taking the LUN offline, all fine; if she is quicker (or has the process
automated / scripted), data corruption still occurs.

And of course, there are general limits to which extent software can
avoid user mistakes.

However, I trust your and Ben's judegement that by checking this in a
suitably short time span, the issues your customers have had would have
been avoided, and I'm not going to oppose the patch on these grounds.

Martin

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-19 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-09  5:19 [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/2] Handle remapped LUNs better Benjamin Marzinski
2021-02-09  5:19 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 1/2] libmultipath: fix use-after-free in uev_add_path Benjamin Marzinski
2021-02-09 20:57   ` Martin Wilck
2021-02-09  5:19 ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 2/2] multipathd: add recheck_wwid_time option to verify the path wwid Benjamin Marzinski
2021-02-09 22:19   ` Martin Wilck
2021-02-10 18:09     ` Benjamin Block
2021-02-10 19:57       ` Martin Wilck
2021-02-11 11:25       ` Benjamin Block
2021-02-11  4:48     ` Benjamin Marzinski
2021-02-11 12:14       ` Martin Wilck
2021-02-18  3:22         ` Chongyun Wu
2021-02-19 10:46           ` Martin Wilck [this message]
2021-02-27  6:02     ` Benjamin Marzinski

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