From: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>
To: Sameer Pujar <spujar@nvidia.com>
Cc: dan.j.williams@intel.com, tiwai@suse.com, jonathanh@nvidia.com,
dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
sharadg@nvidia.com, rlokhande@nvidia.com, dramesh@nvidia.com,
mkumard@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] dmaengine: add fifo_size member
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 10:13:52 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190613044352.GC9160@vkoul-mobl.Dlink> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b7e28e73-7214-f1dc-866f-102410c88323@nvidia.com>
On 06-06-19, 09:19, Sameer Pujar wrote:
> > you are really going other way around about the whole picture. FWIW that
> > is how *other* folks do audio with dmaengine!
> I discussed this internally with HW folks and below is the reason why DMA
> needs
> to know FIFO size.
>
> - FIFOs reside in peripheral device(ADMAIF), which is the ADMA interface to
> the audio sub-system.
> - ADMAIF has multiple channels and share FIFO buffer for individual
> operations. There is a provision
> to allocate specific fifo size for each individual ADMAIF channel from the
> shared buffer.
> - Tegra Audio DMA(ADMA) architecture is different from the usual DMA
> engines, which you described earlier.
> - The flow control logic is placed inside ADMA. Slave peripheral
> device(ADMAIF) signals ADMA whenever a
> read or write happens on the FIFO(per WORD basis). Please note that the
> signaling is per channel. There is
> no other signaling present from ADMAIF to ADMA.
> - ADMA keeps a counter related to above signaling. Whenever a sufficient
when is signal triggered? When there is space available or some
threshold of space is reached?
> space is available, it initiates a transfer.
> But the question is, how does it know when to transfer. This is the
> reason, why ADMA has to be aware of FIFO
> depth of ADMAIF channel. Depending on the counters and FIFO depth, it
> knows exactly when a free space is available
> in the context of a specific channel. On ADMA, FIFO_SIZE is just a value
> which should match to actual FIFO_DEPTH/SIZE
> of ADMAIF channel.
That doesn't sound too different from typical dmaengine. To give an
example of a platform (and general DMAengine principles as well) I worked
on the FIFO was 16 word deep. DMA didn't knew!
Peripheral driver would signal to DMA when a threshold is reached and
DMA would send a burst controlled by src/dst_burst_size. For example if
you have a FIFO with 16 words depth, typical burst_size would be 8 words
and peripheral will configure signalling for FIFO having 8 words, so
signal from peripheral will make dma transfer 8 words.
Here the peripheral driver FIFO is important, but the driver
configures it and sets burst_size accordingly.
So can you explain me what is the difference here that the peripheral
cannot configure and use burst size with passing fifo depth?
> - Now consider two cases based on above logic,
> * Case 1: when DMA_FIFO_SIZE > SLAVE_FIFO_SIZE
> In this case, ADMA thinks that there is enough space available for
> transfer, when actually the FIFO data
> on slave is not consumed yet. It would result in OVERRUN.
> * Case 2: when DMA_FIFO_SIZE < SLAVE_FIFO_SIZE
> This is case where ADMA won’t transfer, even though sufficient space is
> available, resulting in UNDERRUN.
> - The guideline is to program, DMA_FIFO_SIZE(on ADMA side) =
> SLAVE_FIFO_SIZE(on ADMAIF side) and hence we need a
> way to communicate fifo size info to ADMA.
--
~Vinod
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-13 16:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-04-30 11:30 [RFC] dmaengine: add fifo_size member Sameer Pujar
2019-04-30 11:30 ` [PATCH] " Sameer Pujar
2019-05-02 6:04 ` Vinod Koul
2019-05-02 6:04 ` [PATCH] " Vinod Koul
2019-05-02 10:53 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-05-02 12:25 ` Vinod Koul
2019-05-02 13:29 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-05-03 19:10 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-05-04 10:23 ` Vinod Koul
2019-05-06 13:04 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-05-06 15:50 ` Vinod Koul
2019-06-06 3:49 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-06-06 6:00 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-06-06 6:41 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-06-06 7:14 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-06 10:22 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-06-06 10:49 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-06 11:54 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-06-06 12:37 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-06 13:45 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-06-06 13:55 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-06-06 14:26 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-06 14:36 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-06 14:36 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-06-06 14:47 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-06 14:25 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-06 15:18 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-06-06 16:32 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-06 16:44 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-06-06 16:53 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-06 17:25 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-06-06 17:56 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-06-07 9:24 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-07 5:50 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-06-07 9:18 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-07 10:27 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-07 12:17 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-06-07 12:58 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-07 13:35 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-06-07 20:53 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2019-06-10 8:01 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-10 7:59 ` Jon Hunter
2019-06-13 4:43 ` Vinod Koul [this message]
2019-06-17 7:07 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-06-18 4:33 ` Vinod Koul
2019-06-20 10:29 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-06-24 6:26 ` Vinod Koul
2019-06-25 2:57 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-07-05 6:15 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-07-15 15:42 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-07-19 5:04 ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-23 5:54 ` Sameer Pujar
2019-07-29 6:10 ` Vinod Koul
2019-07-31 9:48 ` Jon Hunter
2019-07-31 15:16 ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-02 8:51 ` Jon Hunter
2019-08-08 12:38 ` Vinod Koul
2019-08-19 15:56 ` Jon Hunter
2019-08-20 11:05 ` Vinod Koul
2019-09-16 9:02 ` Sameer Pujar
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