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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Raj\, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	vkoul@kernel.org, megha.dey@intel.com, maz@kernel.org,
	bhelgaas@google.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	jacob.jun.pan@intel.com, yi.l.liu@intel.com, baolu.lu@intel.com,
	kevin.tian@intel.com, sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com,
	tony.luck@intel.com, jing.lin@intel.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com,
	eric.auger@redhat.com, parav@mellanox.com, rafael@kernel.org,
	netanelg@mellanox.com, shahafs@mellanox.com,
	yan.y.zhao@linux.intel.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	samuel.ortiz@intel.com, mona.hossain@intel.com,
	dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 05/18] dmaengine: idxd: add IMS support in base driver
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2020 10:44:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2kqfi7p.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201001010706.GD26492@otc-nc-03>

On Wed, Sep 30 2020 at 18:07, Ashok Raj wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:57:22PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>
> Devices exposed to guest need host OS support for programming interrupt
> entries in the IOMMU interrupt remapping table. VFIO provides those 
> services for standard interrupt schemes like MSI/MSIx for instance. 
> Since IMS is device specific VFIO can't provide an intercept when 
> IMS entries are programmed by the guest OS.

Why is IMS exposed to the guest in the first place? You expose a
subdevice to a guest, right? And that subdevice should not even know
that IMS exists simply because IMS is strictly host specific.

The obvious emulation here is to make the subdevice look like a PCI
device and expose emulated MSIX (not MSI) which is intercepted when
accessing the MSIX table and then redirected to the proper place along
with IRTE and PASID and whatever.

>> Also this stuff is host side and not guest side. I seriously doubt that
>> you want to hand in the whole PCI device which contains the IMS
>
> You are right, but nothing prevents a user from simply taking a full PCI
> device and assign to guest. 

You surely can and should prevent that because it makes no sense and
cannot work.

That's why you want a generic check for 'this device is magic SIOV or
whatever' and not something burried deep into a driver..

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-01  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <160021207013.67751.8220471499908137671.stgit@djiang5-desk3.ch.intel.com>
2020-09-15 23:27 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] irqchip: Add IMS (Interrupt Message Storage) driver Dave Jiang
2020-09-30 18:23   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-01 22:59     ` Dey, Megha
2020-09-15 23:27 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] iommu/vt-d: Add DEV-MSI support Dave Jiang
2020-09-30 18:32   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-01 23:26     ` Dey, Megha
2020-10-02 11:13       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-08  7:54     ` David Woodhouse
2020-10-20 21:42       ` Dey, Megha
2020-09-15 23:28 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] dmaengine: idxd: add IMS support in base driver Dave Jiang
2020-09-30 18:47   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-30 18:51     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-30 21:48       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-30 21:49       ` Raj, Ashok
2020-09-30 21:57         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-01  1:07           ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-01  8:44             ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-09-30 22:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-01 20:48     ` Dave Jiang
2020-09-15 23:28 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] dmaengine: idxd: add basic mdev registration and helper functions Dave Jiang
2020-09-15 23:28 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] dmaengine: idxd: virtual device commands emulation Dave Jiang
2020-09-15 23:28 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] dmaengine: idxd: add mdev type as a new wq type Dave Jiang
2020-09-15 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] dmaengine: idxd: add dedicated wq mdev type Dave Jiang
2020-09-15 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] dmaengine: idxd: add new wq state for mdev Dave Jiang
2020-09-15 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] dmaengine: idxd: add error notification from host driver to mediated device Dave Jiang
2020-09-15 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] dmaengine: idxd: add ABI documentation for mediated device support Dave Jiang
2020-09-17 15:06 ` [PATCH v3 00/18] Add VFIO mediated device support and DEV-MSI support for the idxd driver Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 17:15   ` Dave Jiang
2020-09-17 17:27     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 17:30     ` Alex Williamson
2020-09-17 17:37       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found] ` <160021248280.67751.12525558281536923518.stgit@djiang5-desk3.ch.intel.com>
2020-09-30 18:36   ` [PATCH v3 04/18] dmaengine: idxd: add interrupt handle request support Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-01 20:16     ` Dave Jiang
     [not found] ` <160021253189.67751.12686144284999931703.stgit@djiang5-desk3.ch.intel.com>
2020-09-30 19:57   ` [PATCH v3 11/18] dmaengine: idxd: ims setup for the vdcm Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-07 21:54     ` Dave Jiang
2020-10-08  7:39       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-08 16:51         ` Dave Jiang
2020-10-08 23:17           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-08 23:32             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-09  0:27               ` Dave Jiang
2020-10-09  1:22               ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-09 11:57                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-09 12:43                   ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-09 12:49                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-09 13:02                       ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-09 13:12                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-09 13:40                           ` Raj, Ashok
2020-10-09 14:44               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-10-09 14:52                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-10-09 16:02                   ` Thomas Gleixner

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