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From: Andrey Grodzovsky <Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com>
To: christian.koenig@amd.com, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	amd-gfx list <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Alex Deucher <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
	Qiang Yu <yuq825@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/14] drm/amdgpu: Guard against write accesses after device removal
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 11:22:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <78e4705d-c55f-6c68-d0f9-b1939b636121@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0b502043-5a66-dcd5-53f9-5c190f22dc46@gmail.com>

Daniel, ping. Also, please refer to the other thread with Bjorn from pci-dev
on the same topic I added you to.

Andrey

On 1/29/21 2:25 PM, Christian König wrote:
> Am 29.01.21 um 18:35 schrieb Andrey Grodzovsky:
>>
>> On 1/29/21 10:16 AM, Christian König wrote:
>>> Am 28.01.21 um 18:23 schrieb Andrey Grodzovsky:
>>>>
>>>> On 1/19/21 1:59 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>>>> Am 19.01.21 um 19:22 schrieb Andrey Grodzovsky:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/19/21 1:05 PM, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>>>>>> [SNIP]
>>>>>> So say writing in a loop to some harmless scratch register for many times 
>>>>>> both for plugged
>>>>>> and unplugged case and measure total time delta ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should at least measure the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Writing X times to a scratch reg without your patch.
>>>>> 2. Writing X times to a scratch reg with your patch.
>>>>> 3. Writing X times to a scratch reg with the hardware physically disconnected.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest to repeat that once for Polaris (or older) and once for Vega or 
>>>>> Navi.
>>>>>
>>>>> The SRBM on Polaris is meant to introduce some delay in each access, so it 
>>>>> might react differently then the newer hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>> Christian.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> See attached results and the testing code. Ran on Polaris (gfx8) and 
>>>> Vega10(gfx9)
>>>>
>>>> In summary, over 1 million WWREG32 in loop with and without this patch you 
>>>> get around 10ms of accumulated overhead ( so 0.00001 millisecond penalty for 
>>>> each WWREG32) for using drm_dev_enter check when writing registers.
>>>>
>>>> P.S Bullet 3 I cannot test as I need eGPU and currently I don't have one.
>>>
>>> Well if I'm not completely mistaken that are 100ms of accumulated overhead. 
>>> So around 100ns per write. And even bigger problem is that this is a ~67% 
>>> increase.
>>
>>
>> My bad, and 67% from what ? How u calculate ?
> 
> My bad, (308501-209689)/209689=47% increase.
> 
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how many write we do during normal operation, but that sounds 
>>> like a bit much. Ideas?
>>
>> Well, u suggested to move the drm_dev_enter way up but as i see it the problem 
>> with this is that it increase the chance of race where the
>> device is extracted after we check for drm_dev_enter (there is also such 
>> chance even when it's placed inside WWREG but it's lower).
>> Earlier I propsed that instead of doing all those guards scattered all over 
>> the code simply delay release of system memory pages and unreserve of
>> MMIO ranges to until after the device itself is gone after last drm device 
>> reference is dropped. But Daniel opposes delaying MMIO ranges unreserve to after
>> PCI remove code because according to him it will upset the PCI subsytem.
> 
> Yeah, that's most likely true as well.
> 
> Maybe Daniel has another idea when he's back from vacation.
> 
> Christian.
> 
>>
>> Andrey
>>
>>>
>>> Christian.
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-18 21:01 [PATCH v4 00/14] RFC Support hot device unplug in amdgpu Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] drm/ttm: Remap all page faults to per process dummy page Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:48   ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19  8:41   ` Christian König
2021-01-19 13:56   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-25 15:28     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-27 14:29       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-02 14:21         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] drm: Unamp the entire device address space on device unplug Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] drm/ttm: Expose ttm_tt_unpopulate for driver use Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] drm/sched: Cancel and flush all oustatdning jobs before finish Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:49   ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19  8:42   ` Christian König
2021-01-19  9:50     ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] drm/amdgpu: Split amdgpu_device_fini into early and late Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  8:45   ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] drm/amdgpu: Add early fini callback Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] drm/amdgpu: Register IOMMU topology notifier per device Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:52   ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19  8:48   ` Christian König
2021-01-19 13:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 21:21       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 22:01         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-20  4:21           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20  8:38             ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]               ` <1a5f7ccb-1f91-91be-1cb1-e7cb43ac2c13@amd.com>
2021-01-21 10:48                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-20  5:01     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 19:38       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-21 10:42         ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] drm/amdgpu: Fix a bunch of sdma code crash post device unplug Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  8:51   ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] drm/amdgpu: Remap all page faults to per process dummy page Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  8:52   ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] dmr/amdgpu: Move some sysfs attrs creation to default_attr Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  7:34   ` Greg KH
2021-01-19 16:36     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 17:47       ` Greg KH
2021-01-19 19:04         ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19 19:16           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 19:41           ` Greg KH
2021-01-19  8:53   ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] drm/amdgpu: Guard against write accesses after device removal Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  8:55   ` Christian König
2021-01-19 15:35     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 15:39       ` Christian König
2021-01-19 18:05       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 18:22         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 18:59           ` Christian König
2021-01-19 19:16             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 19:34               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-28 17:23             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-29 15:16               ` Christian König
2021-01-29 17:35                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-29 19:25                   ` Christian König
2021-02-05 16:22                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky [this message]
2021-02-05 22:10                       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-05 23:09                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-06 14:18                           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-07 21:28                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-07 21:50                           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08  9:37                             ` Christian König
2021-02-08  9:48                               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08 10:03                                 ` Christian König
2021-02-08 10:11                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08 13:59                                     ` Christian König
2021-02-08 16:23                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08 22:15                                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09  7:58                                           ` Christian König
2021-02-09 14:30                                             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09 15:40                                               ` Christian König
2021-02-10 22:01                                                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-12 15:00                                                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-08 22:09                               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09  8:27                                 ` Christian König
2021-02-09  9:46                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] drm/scheduler: Job timeout handler returns status Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  7:53   ` Christian König
2021-01-19 17:47     ` Luben Tuikov
2021-01-19 18:53       ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] drm/sched: Make timeout timer rearm conditional Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] drm/amdgpu: Prevent any job recoveries after device is unplugged Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 14:16 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] RFC Support hot device unplug in amdgpu Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 17:31   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 18:08     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 18:18       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20  9:05         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-20 14:19           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 15:59             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08  5:59               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-08  7:27                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-09  4:01                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09  9:50                     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-09 15:34                       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-18 20:03                       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-19 10:24                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-24 16:30                           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-25 10:25                             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-25 16:12                               ` Andrey Grodzovsky

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