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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 10:23:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3JPZwEHjGDU4Oyq@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f54c2a93-539f-4520-0561-fbe5cea7772f@linux.ibm.com>

On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 10:01:13PM -0500, Matthew Rosato wrote:
> On 11/7/22 7:52 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > This series provides an alternative container layer for VFIO implemented
> > using iommufd. This is optional, if CONFIG_IOMMUFD is not set then it will
> > not be compiled in.
> > 
> > At this point iommufd can be injected by passing in a iommfd FD to
> > VFIO_GROUP_SET_CONTAINER which will use the VFIO compat layer in iommufd
> > to obtain the compat IOAS and then connect up all the VFIO drivers as
> > appropriate.
> > 
> > This is temporary stopping point, a following series will provide a way to
> > directly open a VFIO device FD and directly connect it to IOMMUFD using
> > native ioctls that can expose the IOMMUFD features like hwpt, future
> > vPASID and dynamic attachment.
> > 
> > This series, in compat mode, has passed all the qemu tests we have
> > available, including the test suites for the Intel GVT mdev. Aside from
> > the temporary limitation with P2P memory this is belived to be fully
> > compatible with VFIO.
> 
> AFAICT there is no equivalent means to specify
> vfio_iommu_type1.dma_entry_limit when using iommufd; looks like
> we'll just always get the default 65535.

No, there is no arbitary limit on iommufd

> Was this because you envision the limit being not applicable for
> iommufd (limits will be enforced via either means and eventually we
> won't want to ) or was it an oversight?

The limit here is primarily about limiting userspace abuse of the
interface.

iommufd is using GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT which shifts the responsiblity to
cgroups, which is similar to how KVM works.

So, for a VM sandbox you'd set a cgroup limit and if a hostile
userspace in the sanbox decides to try to OOM the system it will hit
that limit, regardless of which kernel APIs it tries to abuse.

This work is not entirely complete as we also need the iommu driver to
use GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT for allocations connected to the iommu_domain,
particularly for allocations of the IO page tables themselves - which
can be quite big.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-14 14:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-08  0:52 [PATCH v2 00/11] Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] vfio: Move vfio_device driver open/close code to a function Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] vfio: Move vfio_device_assign_container() into vfio_device_first_open() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] vfio: Rename vfio_device_assign/unassign_container() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] vfio: Move storage of allow_unsafe_interrupts to vfio_main.c Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] vfio: Use IOMMU_CAP_ENFORCE_CACHE_COHERENCY for vfio_file_enforced_coherent() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  2:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] vfio-iommufd: Allow iommufd to be used in place of a container fd Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  2:51   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] vfio-iommufd: Support iommufd for physical VFIO devices Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  6:10   ` Nicolin Chen
2022-11-08  7:41     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-08 17:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  3:12         ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08 17:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  3:11   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10 17:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10 23:58       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  4:12   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:47     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] vfio-iommufd: Support iommufd for emulated " Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  5:33   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] vfio: Move container related MODULE_ALIAS statements into container.c Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  5:34   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  4:13   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] vfio: Make vfio_container optionally compiled Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08 22:28   ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-09  0:54     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-09 17:18       ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-09 19:52         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  6:57           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-10 17:10             ` Alex Williamson
2022-11-10 17:52             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  0:52 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] iommufd: Allow iommufd to supply /dev/vfio/vfio Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  7:01   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  4:16   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-11  6:38     ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:50     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-08  9:19 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Connect VFIO to IOMMUFD Nicolin Chen
2022-11-08 15:18   ` Yi Liu
2022-11-09 16:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 12:51       ` Yi Liu
2022-11-14 14:37         ` Yang, Lixiao
2022-11-15  5:41           ` He, Yu
2022-11-14 14:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 14:42           ` Yi Liu
2022-11-15  1:16       ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-09  9:03 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-09 12:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-10  2:16     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-11-11  3:01 ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 14:23   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-11-14 14:55     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 14:59       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-14 15:21         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-11-14 19:27           ` Jason Gunthorpe

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