From: John Keeping <john@keeping.me.uk>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andreas Krey <a.krey@gmx.de>,
John Szakmeister <john@szakmeister.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pull: require choice between rebase/merge on non-fast-forward pull
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 22:18:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130702211820.GD9161@serenity.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7vvc4xluxt.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 03:41:34PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> John Keeping <john@keeping.me.uk> writes:
>
> >> Here, "git pull . branch1" is merely saying "I want to integrate
> >> the work on my current branch with that of branch1" without saying
> >> how that integration wants to happen.
> >
> > The change that I think is important is that the "bring my branch
> > up-to-date" operation should force the user to choose what to do if the
> > branch does not fast-forward to its upstream. If that was spelled "git
> > update" then having "git pull" perform a merge would be fine, but we
> > spell this operation as "git pull" so the change needs to happen there.
>
> I am not sure I quite get what you want to say with "git update",
> and I am not sure if I necessarily want to know---I do not think we
> would want to add yet another command that DWIMs for certain _I_,
> that may not match newbie expectations.
I wasn't proposing any new command, I was trying to express the
operation that users coming from non-distributed VCSs want to perform
(which is called "update" in svn). The problem is that a DVCS operates
in a completely different way and a lot of users do not seem to want to
learn the difference but simply try to map the existing commands that
they know onto Git commands ([1] is the top result for "svn commands to
git" on Google and maps "svn update" straight to "git pull").
[1] http://git.or.cz/course/svn.html
> > I don't think "git pull remote branch" falls into the same category as
> > plain "git pull" so I'm not convinced that defaulting to merge there is
> > unreasonable. The original message about this [1] did talk about only
> > "git pull" with no arguments.
>
> If you want to limit the scope to only "git pull" (without any
> command line argument), I actually do not have strong preference for
> or against it either way. Perhaps a follow-up patch to be squashed?
I remember looking at this a few weeks ago and being concerned that it's
impossible to tell what options you actually have in git-pull because it
just invokes 'git fetch "$@"' and git-pull(1) does advertise a number of
fetch options. It may be that "test $# = 0" is good enough, but ideally
I want to test for non-option arguments.
I can't see a way of doing this without putting knowledge of all of the
fetch options in git-pull so that we can handle options with arguments
correctly.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-02 21:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-22 11:50 first parent, commit graph layout, and pull merge direction Andreas Krey
2013-05-22 18:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 9:06 ` Andreas Krey
2013-05-23 9:48 ` John Szakmeister
2013-05-23 10:07 ` Jeremy Rosen
2013-05-23 10:29 ` Andreas Krey
2013-05-23 11:08 ` John Keeping
2013-05-23 16:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 16:41 ` John Keeping
2013-05-23 21:01 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 21:55 ` John Keeping
2013-05-23 21:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-23 22:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 22:46 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-23 22:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 23:09 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-23 23:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 23:53 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-24 8:29 ` John Keeping
2013-05-24 9:38 ` John Szakmeister
2013-05-24 0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-05-24 0:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-24 0:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-05-24 0:25 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-24 0:32 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-24 16:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-24 20:47 ` Philip Oakley
2013-06-27 19:48 ` [PATCH] pull: require choice between rebase/merge on non-fast-forward pull Junio C Hamano
2013-06-27 20:10 ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-27 21:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-28 1:08 ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-28 6:34 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-28 9:09 ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-28 11:52 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-28 12:28 ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-27 20:11 ` Fredrik Gustafsson
2013-06-27 20:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-27 20:30 ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-27 20:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-27 22:16 ` Matthieu Moy
2013-06-28 1:19 ` W. Trevor King
2013-06-28 8:09 ` John Keeping
2013-06-28 17:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-06-28 17:42 ` John Keeping
2013-06-28 22:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-02 21:18 ` John Keeping [this message]
2013-07-14 15:03 ` [PATCH] fixup! " John Keeping
2013-07-15 4:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-08-28 23:22 ` [PATCH] " Felipe Contreras
2013-07-18 14:30 ` John Keeping
2013-07-18 17:38 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-18 18:00 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-18 19:35 ` [PATCH v2] " Junio C Hamano
2013-07-19 0:54 ` Eric Sunshine
2013-07-19 16:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-19 20:29 ` Eric Sunshine
2013-07-19 22:20 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-07-19 22:30 ` Eric Sunshine
2013-07-19 22:55 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-01-22 19:08 ` Flimm
2013-05-24 17:11 ` first parent, commit graph layout, and pull merge direction Andreas Krey
2013-05-24 19:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2013-05-23 19:25 ` Andreas Krey
2013-05-24 9:29 ` Holger Hellmuth (IKS)
2013-05-24 13:42 ` Andreas Krey
2013-05-24 15:05 ` Holger Hellmuth (IKS)
2013-05-24 17:24 ` Andreas Krey
2013-05-23 11:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2013-05-23 12:21 ` Andreas Krey
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