From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS31976 209.132.180.0/23 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,T_DKIM_INVALID, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD shortcircuit=no autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45491F406 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2018 21:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753564AbeAFVix (ORCPT ); Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:38:53 -0500 Received: from imap.thunk.org ([74.207.234.97]:59298 "EHLO imap.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753183AbeAFViu (ORCPT ); Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:38:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thunk.org; s=ef5046eb; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=AyIKwEdE18pC5+o6yOxK4ILXI5+3TfaGE5DROEw1M10=; b=B9MofwXJ/Zu7dI40p4A9l/J5e0 6wd+Cb16vFroLc+vYV5kZPGDEScmnaSe3BbNlLZ29ntKm55W/fkZa91IhtFQvKvEcWGG92d/YZdnR w6Lqv62cz2MKmTS/2pUvtwgpc3N4l4NTEne6Nix+8gTMbgXGEVXvhCJQH9o44z7SbpNA=; Received: from root (helo=callcc.thunk.org) by imap.thunk.org with local-esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1eXwAw-0002Df-HQ; Sat, 06 Jan 2018 21:38:46 +0000 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 83EAEC00508; Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:38:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:38:45 -0500 From: Theodore Ts'o To: Carl Baldwin Cc: Junio C Hamano , Martin Fick , Git Mailing List Subject: Re: Bring together merge and rebase Message-ID: <20180106213845.GD2404@thunk.org> References: <20171225035215.GC1257@thunk.org> <20171226011638.GA16552@Carl-MBP.ecbaldwin.net> <3447055.jsE6nH3DQt@mfick-lnx> <20180106172919.GA17272@Carl-MBP.ecbaldwin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180106172919.GA17272@Carl-MBP.ecbaldwin.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: git-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: git@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jan 06, 2018 at 10:29:21AM -0700, Carl Baldwin wrote: > > When n==m==1, "amended" pointer from X1 to A1 may allow you to > > answer "Is this the first attempt? If this is refined, what did the > > earlier one look like?" when given X1, but you would also want to > > answer a related question "This was a good start, but did the effort > > result in a refined patch, and if so what is it?" when given A1, and > > "amended" pointer won't help at all. Needless to say, the "pointer" > > approach breaks down when !(n==m==1). > > It doesn't break down. It merely presents more sophisticated situations > that may be more work for the tool to help out with. This is where I > think a prototype will help see these situations and develop the tool to > manage them. That's another way of saying "break down". And if the goal is a prototype, may I gently suggest that the way forward is trailers in the commit body, ala: Change-Id: I0b793feac9664bcc8935d8ec04ca16d5 or Upstream-4.15-SHA1: 73875fc2b3934e45b4b9a94eb57ca8cd Making changes in the commit header is complex, and has all *sorts* of forward and backwards compatibility challenges, especially when it's not clear what the proper data model should be. Cheers, -Ted