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From: John Szakmeister <john@szakmeister.net>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com>,
	Git Mailing List <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Pull is Mostly Evil
Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 06:00:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEBDL5USVuFDXQk7Cb9cJ8Lm4RJNeJB0DwZBCB1cXmkroD8w3g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqoazgaw0y.fsf@gitster.dls.corp.google.com>

On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:13 PM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
[snip]
> Your earlier long-hand, together with the two examples that pulls
> into the same "maint" branch Brian gave us, may give us a better
> starting points to think about a saner way.
>
> To me, the problem sounds like:
>
>     Tutorials of Git often says "use 'git pull' to catch up your
>     branch with your upstream work and then 'git push' back" (and
>     worse yet, 'git push' that does not fast-forward suggests doing
>     so), but 'git pull' that creates a merge in a wrong direction is
>     not the right thing for many people.

Yes, that's a good portion of the problem.

> And proposed solutions range from "let's write 'pull' off as a
> failed experiment" to "let's forbid any merge made by use of 'pull'
> by default, because it is likely that merge may be in reverse".

FWIW, at my company, we took another approach.  We introduced a `git
ffwd` command that fetches from all remotes, and fast-forwards all
your local branches that are tracking a remote, and everyone on the
team uses it all the time.  It should be said this team also likes to
use Git bare-metal, because they like knowing how things work
out-of-the-box.  But they all use the command because it's so
convenient.

I had started making a C version a while back, but never completed it.
 I could take a stab at doing so again, if there's interest.

-John

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-05-03 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-02 15:37 Pull is Mostly Evil Marc Branchaud
2014-05-02 15:45 ` David Kastrup
2014-05-02 16:05   ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-02 19:05     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 22:34       ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-02 22:53         ` Jonathan Nieder
2014-05-03 20:24           ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-02 23:23         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03 11:24           ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-03 11:30             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 19:31   ` David Lang
2014-05-02 19:37     ` David Kastrup
2014-05-02 18:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-02 19:11   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 20:06     ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-02 20:58       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 21:48     ` Jeff King
2014-05-02 21:55       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 22:36         ` Jeff King
2014-05-02 23:27           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03  2:18       ` David Kastrup
2014-05-06 22:06       ` Junio C Hamano
2014-05-06 22:19         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03  7:56   ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-03  8:17     ` David Kastrup
2014-05-03  9:04       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03  9:56         ` David Kastrup
2014-05-04  4:30           ` David Lang
2014-05-04  4:38             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-04  6:13               ` David Kastrup
2014-05-04  6:50               ` James Denholm
2014-05-04  7:48                 ` David Kastrup
2014-05-04  9:51                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-04 10:37                   ` James Denholm
2014-05-04 11:02                     ` David Kastrup
2014-05-03  9:26     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-03 22:09       ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-04  3:08         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-04  7:49           ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-04 10:17             ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-04 19:09               ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-04 21:13                 ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-05  5:44                   ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-05  5:47                     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-07 22:37     ` Max Kirillov
2014-05-03 10:00   ` John Szakmeister [this message]
2014-05-05 15:39     ` Richard Hansen
2014-05-05 18:15       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-02 22:12 ` Philip Oakley
2014-05-09 19:49 ` Marc Branchaud

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