From: ZheNing Hu <adlternative@gmail.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>,
ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
git <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/2] [GSOC] trailer: add new .cmd config option
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 21:27:05 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOLTT8TNK55AprX2tezoX4YjWV31RRyLWc9NJOvidRqqSgBpQQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqq35vum1rn.fsf@gitster.g>
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> 于2021年4月14日周三 上午3:18写道:
>
> ZheNing Hu <adlternative@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >> It might be desirable to make it easier for people to migrate from
> >> ".command" to ".cmd". I agree this is debatable, but I don't see a big
> >> downside in it. Maybe, if no argument was passed at all the first time
> >> the command is called instead of the empty string, the command could
> >> then know that it's called for the first time. I am not sure this
> >> would be very helpful in practice though.
> >>
> >
> > If i'm not wrong, Christan meant that this command must run so it's
> > "consistency", and Junio thinks this "consistency" is not needed.
>
> My stance actually is a bit stronger than that. I suspect that
> running the command without argument once even when no --trailer on
> the command line asks for that <key> is a misfeature, if not a bug
> (only because it is now documented by 1/2 as such---before that, at
> least I did not read the document that way). And unless it is shown
> that it is not a misfeature but is a useful behaviour with an example
> use case that benefits from it, I would prefer not to replicate it
> in the ".cmd".
>
> > It is true that there is not much harm in keeping `.cmd` at the behavior
> > of `.command` now.
>
> It is far from "there is not much harm". It misses the whole point
> of the exercise.
>
> Only replacing the first occurrence and not the second and
> subsequent occurrence is not what we are keeping in ".cmd".
>
> Replacing in an unsafe way with respect to the command line syntax
> is not what we are keeping in ".cmd".
>
> That is because these two are misfeatures if not bugs (only because
> they are documented).
>
> In fact, the only reason why we are introducing .cmd is so that we
> can deprecate .command and get rid of its misfeatures while keeping
> only good bits.
>
> So I am waiting to hear why it is not a misfeature. If it is not,
> then surely I am fine to keep it for now and add a workaround later,
> but until that happens, I do not think "commit --trailer" can be
> used as a way to allow end-users emulate "-s" for their favorite
> trailer like helped-by, acked-by, etc.
>
If it is really necessary to solve this "empty execution" in .cmd,
Maybe we need to consider two points:
* Do we need a new config flag as you said `[implicitExecution = false]`
or just drop it? Has anyone been relying on the "empty execution" of
.command before? This may be worthy of concern.
* Do we need `trailer.<token>.runMode` as Christan said before?
I rejected his this suggestion before, and now I regret it a bit.
--
ZheNing Hu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-04-14 13:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-23 14:53 [PATCH] [GSOC]trailer: change $ARG to environment variable ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-03-24 15:42 ` [PATCH v2] [GSOC]trailer: pass arg as positional parameter ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-03-24 20:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-25 1:43 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-03-25 11:53 ` [PATCH v3] " ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-03-25 22:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-26 13:29 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-03-26 16:13 ` [PATCH v4] " ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-03-27 18:04 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-27 19:53 ` Christian Couder
2021-03-28 10:46 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-03-29 9:04 ` Christian Couder
2021-03-29 13:43 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-03-30 8:45 ` Christian Couder
2021-03-30 11:22 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-03-30 15:07 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-03-30 17:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-31 5:14 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-03-31 18:19 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-03-31 18:29 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-01 3:56 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-01 19:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-02 2:08 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-01 3:39 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-03-31 10:05 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] " ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-03-31 10:05 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] [GSOC] run-command: add shell_no_implicit_args option ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-01 7:22 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-01 9:58 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-03-31 10:05 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] [GSOC]trailer: pass arg as positional parameter ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-01 7:28 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] " Christian Couder
2021-04-01 10:02 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-02 13:26 ` [PATCH v6] [GSOC] trailer: add new trailer.<token>.cmd config option ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-02 20:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-03 5:08 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-04 5:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-03 5:51 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-04 23:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-06 3:47 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-06 3:52 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-06 5:16 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-06 5:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-06 5:37 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-04 5:43 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-04 8:52 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-04 9:53 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-02 23:44 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-03 3:22 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-03 4:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-03 5:15 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-04 13:11 ` [PATCH v7] " ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-06 16:23 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-07 4:51 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-09 13:37 ` [PATCH v8 0/2] [GSOC] trailer: add new .cmd " ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-09 13:37 ` [PATCH v8 1/2] [GSOC] docs: correct descript of trailer.<token>.command ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-09 19:02 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-10 13:40 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-09 13:37 ` [PATCH v8 2/2] [GSOC] trailer: add new .cmd config option ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-09 20:18 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-10 14:09 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-09 19:59 ` [PATCH v8 0/2] " Christian Couder
2021-04-12 16:39 ` [PATCH v9 " ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-12 16:39 ` [PATCH v9 1/2] [GSOC] docs: correct descript of trailer.<token>.command ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-12 20:42 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-16 12:03 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-17 1:54 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-12 16:39 ` [PATCH v9 2/2] [GSOC] trailer: add new .cmd config option ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-12 20:51 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-13 7:33 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-13 12:02 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-13 19:18 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-14 13:27 ` ZheNing Hu [this message]
2021-04-14 20:33 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-15 15:32 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-15 17:41 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-16 12:54 ` Christian Couder
2021-04-13 18:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-16 8:47 ` [PATCH v10 0/2] " ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-16 8:47 ` [PATCH v10 1/2] [GSOC] docs: correct descript of trailer.<token>.command ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-16 19:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-16 8:47 ` [PATCH v10 2/2] [GSOC] trailer: add new .cmd config option ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-16 19:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-16 19:21 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-16 19:25 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-17 2:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-17 3:36 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-17 7:41 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-17 8:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-17 15:13 ` [PATCH v11 0/2] " ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-17 15:13 ` [PATCH v11 1/2] [GSOC] docs: correct description of .command ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-17 15:13 ` [PATCH v11 2/2] [GSOC] trailer: add new .cmd config option ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-04-17 22:26 ` [PATCH v11 0/2] " Junio C Hamano
2021-04-18 7:47 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-21 0:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-21 5:47 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-21 23:40 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-22 9:20 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-04-27 6:49 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-27 12:24 ` ZheNing Hu
2021-05-03 15:41 ` [PATCH v12 " ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-05-03 15:41 ` [PATCH v12 1/2] [GSOC] docs: correct descript of trailer.<token>.command ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
2021-05-03 15:41 ` [PATCH v12 2/2] [GSOC] trailer: add new .cmd config option ZheNing Hu via GitGitGadget
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