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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: "René Scharfe" <l.s.r@web.de>
Cc: Josh Steadmon <steadmon@google.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, avarab@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] parse-options: document automatic PARSE_OPT_LITERAL_ARGHELP
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:16:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqqlezboakd.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba624c59-5330-360e-dc4a-432752d22fc1@web.de> (=?utf-8?Q?=22R?= =?utf-8?Q?en=C3=A9?= Scharfe"'s message of "Wed, 19 Jan 2022 11:56:58 +0100")

René Scharfe <l.s.r@web.de> writes:

> The help strings for arguments are enclosed in angle brackets
> automatically.  E.g. if argh is specified as "name", "--option <name>"
> is printed, to indicate that users need to supply an actual name.  The
> flag PARSE_OPT_LITERAL_ARGHELP turns this off, so that "--option name"
> is printed instead, to indicate that the literal string needs to be
> supplied -- a rare case.
>
> This flag is enabled automatically if argh contains special characters
> like brackets.  The developer is supposed to provide any required angle
> brackets for more complicated cases.  E.g. if argh is "<start>,<end>"
> then "--option <start>,<end>" is printed.

The above does explain why we want to have this change very well,
but at least some of it would help those who are reading the comment
we touch.

> Add a comment to mention this PARSE_OPT_LITERAL_ARGHELP behavior.

But instead, the addition is only about when the flag bit is turned
on automatically.  Without understanding your

    E.g. if argh is specified as "name", "--option <name>" is
    printed, to indicate that users need to supply an actual name.

readers would not quite get from the current description "says that
argh shouldn't be enclosed in brackets" when/why it is a good idea
to add the option, I am afraid.

> Also remove the flag from option definitions for which it's inferred
> automatically.

I am not sure if this is a good move.

Because these places explicitly gave PARSE_OPT_LITERAL_ARGHELP, it
was easy to grep for them when I was trying to find an existing
practice.

Imagine, after we remove these redundant flags, we see a patch that
wants to change the set of characters that automatically flips the
flag bit on.  It is clear from the patch text why it helps one
particular OPT_STRING() or whatever the same patch adds, but how
would you make sure it will not regress _existing_ OPT_WHATEVER()
that do not use PARSE_OPT_LITERAL_ARGHELP because their argh happens
to use the character that wasn't special before?

> Signed-off-by: René Scharfe <l.s.r@web.de>
> ---
> Somehow I feel this is not enough, but I can't pin down what's
> missing.

Let me try.

>   *   PARSE_OPT_LITERAL_ARGHELP: says that argh shouldn't be enclosed in brackets
>   *				(i.e. '<argh>') in the help message.
>   *				Useful for options with multiple parameters.
> + *				Automatically enabled if argh contains any
> + *				of the following characters: ()<>[]|
>   *   PARSE_OPT_NOCOMPLETE: by default all visible options are completable
>   *			   by git-completion.bash. This option suppresses that.
>   *   PARSE_OPT_COMP_ARG: this option forces to git-completion.bash to

PARSE_OPT_LITERAL_ARGHELP: in short-help given by "git cmd -h", the
			   "argh" member of the struct option is
			   shown in a pair of angle brackets (e.g.
			   "--option=<argh>"); this flag tells the
			   machinery not to add these brackets, to
			   give more control to the developer.  E.g.
			   "<start>,<end>" given to argh is shown as
			   "--option=<start>,<end>".

That may be a bit too much, but on the other hand, among PARSE_OPT_X
descriptions, this is the only one that needs to talk about help
text on the argument to the option.

Or we can flip it the other way, perhaps?

	Tell the machinery to give "argh" member literally in the
	short-help in "git cmd -h" output for the option.  E.g. {
	.argh = "(diff|raw)", .long_name = "show" } would give
	"--show=(diff|raw)".  Without the flag, "argh" is enclosed
	in a pair of angle brackets.

I dunno.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-19 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-08 20:15 [RFC PATCH] branch: add "inherit" option for branch.autoSetupMerge Josh Steadmon
2021-09-08 20:44 ` Josh Steadmon
2021-09-11  0:25 ` [PATCH v2] " Josh Steadmon
2021-09-11  0:52   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-17  4:35     ` Josh Steadmon
2021-10-17  5:50       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-15 21:57         ` Josh Steadmon
2021-10-17  4:45 ` [PATCH v3] branch: add flags and config to inherit tracking Josh Steadmon
2021-10-18 18:31   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-18 21:44     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-10-18 22:11       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-15 22:22     ` Josh Steadmon
2021-10-18 17:50 ` [RFC PATCH] branch: add "inherit" option for branch.autoSetupMerge Glen Choo
2021-10-18 18:08   ` Glen Choo
2021-11-15 21:44   ` Josh Steadmon
2021-11-16 18:25 ` [PATCH v4] branch: add flags and config to inherit tracking Josh Steadmon
2021-11-17  0:33   ` Glen Choo
2021-11-18 22:29   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-11-30 22:05     ` Josh Steadmon
2021-11-19  6:47   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-11-30 21:34     ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-01  9:11       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07  7:12 ` [PATCH v5 0/2] branch: inherit tracking configs Josh Steadmon
2021-12-07  7:12   ` [PATCH v5 1/2] branch: accept multiple upstream branches for tracking Josh Steadmon
2021-12-07  8:57     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-09 23:03       ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-10  1:00         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-07 19:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-14 20:35       ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-08  0:16     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-08  0:17     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-09 22:45       ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-09 23:47         ` Glen Choo
2021-12-10  1:03           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-10 17:32             ` Glen Choo
2021-12-11  2:18               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08 23:53     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-09  0:08       ` Glen Choo
2021-12-09 22:49         ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-09 23:43           ` Glen Choo
2021-12-07  7:12   ` [PATCH v5 2/2] branch: add flags and config to inherit tracking Josh Steadmon
2021-12-07  9:08     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-12-08  0:35       ` Glen Choo
2021-12-14 22:15         ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-14 22:27       ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-07 19:41     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-14 20:37       ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-08  1:02     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-14 22:10       ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-07 18:52   ` [PATCH v5 0/2] branch: inherit tracking configs Junio C Hamano
2021-12-08 17:06     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-10 22:48     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-12-14 22:11       ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-14 23:44 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] " Josh Steadmon
2021-12-14 23:44   ` [PATCH v6 1/3] branch: accept multiple upstream branches for tracking Josh Steadmon
2021-12-15 21:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-16 19:57     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-17  5:10       ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-20 18:29         ` Glen Choo
2021-12-21  3:27           ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-14 23:44   ` [PATCH v6 2/3] branch: add flags and config to inherit tracking Josh Steadmon
2021-12-16 21:27     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-17  5:11       ` Josh Steadmon
2021-12-14 23:44   ` [PATCH v6 3/3] config: require lowercase for branch.autosetupmerge Josh Steadmon
2021-12-15  0:43   ` [PATCH v6 0/3] branch: inherit tracking configs Josh Steadmon
2021-12-16  0:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-16  0:37     ` Glen Choo
2021-12-16  1:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-17  5:12 ` [PATCH v7 " Josh Steadmon
2021-12-17  5:12   ` [PATCH v7 1/3] branch: accept multiple upstream branches for tracking Josh Steadmon
2021-12-17  5:12   ` [PATCH v7 2/3] branch: add flags and config to inherit tracking Josh Steadmon
2021-12-17  5:12   ` [PATCH v7 3/3] config: require lowercase for branch.*.autosetupmerge Josh Steadmon
2021-12-20 21:05   ` [PATCH v7 0/3] branch: inherit tracking configs Glen Choo
2021-12-21  3:30 ` [PATCH v8 " Josh Steadmon
2021-12-21  3:30   ` [PATCH v8 1/3] branch: accept multiple upstream branches for tracking Josh Steadmon
2021-12-21  6:55     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-21 18:25       ` Glen Choo
2021-12-21  3:30   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] branch: add flags and config to inherit tracking Josh Steadmon
2021-12-21 18:17     ` Glen Choo
2022-01-11  1:57     ` incorrect 'git (checkout|branch) -h' output with new --track modes (was: [PATCH v8 2/3] branch: add flags and config to inherit tracking) Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-18 20:49       ` [PATCH] branch,checkout: fix --track usage strings Josh Steadmon
2022-01-18 22:26         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-19 10:56           ` [PATCH] parse-options: document automatic PARSE_OPT_LITERAL_ARGHELP René Scharfe
2022-01-19 14:41             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
     [not found]             ` <CA++g3E-azP3wFTtNkbFdmT7VW3hvULL0WkkAdwfrMb6HDtcXdg@mail.gmail.com>
2022-01-19 15:30               ` René Scharfe
2022-01-19 18:16             ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2022-01-20 10:30               ` René Scharfe
2022-01-20 18:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-21  9:42                   ` René Scharfe
2022-01-21 20:59                     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-20 12:05         ` [PATCH] branch,checkout: fix --track usage strings Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-20 12:18           ` Andreas Schwab
2022-01-20 14:00             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-20 18:38           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-21 11:27             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-21 21:12               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-01-19 10:20       ` incorrect 'git (checkout|branch) -h' output with new --track modes (was: [PATCH v8 2/3] branch: add flags and config to inherit tracking) René Scharfe
2022-01-20 12:00         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-20 12:35           ` [PATCH] branch,checkout: fix --track documentation René Scharfe
2022-01-20 13:57             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-01-20 19:08             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-12-21  3:30   ` [PATCH v8 3/3] config: require lowercase for branch.*.autosetupmerge Josh Steadmon
2021-12-21 18:13   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] branch: inherit tracking configs Glen Choo

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