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From: Jon Masters <jcm@redhat.com>
To: speck@linutronix.de
Subject: [MODERATED] ...
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:10:31 -0400	[thread overview]
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 07/10] TAAv7 7

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On 10/21/19 4:29 PM, speck for Pawan Gupta wrote:
> From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
> Subject: [PATCH v7 07/10] x86/tsx: Add "auto" option to TSX cmdline parameter
> 
> Platforms which are not affected by X86_BUG_TAA may want the TSX feature
> enabled. Add "auto" option to the TSX cmdline parameter. When tsx=auto
> disable TSX when X86_BUG_TAA is present, otherwise enable TSX.

Earlier, you do this:

+	if (!(ia32_cap & ARCH_CAP_TAA_NO) &&
+	    (boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_RTM) ||
+	     (ia32_cap & ARCH_CAP_TSX_CTRL_MSR)))
+		setup_force_cpu_bug(X86_BUG_TAA);

Per the other discussion, I think you want to double check if tsx=auto
is doing what folks want it to do, because currently I think auto still
has the semantics of turning off TSX on everything, rather than just
those cases where a VERW mitigation won't suffice/is in use.

(see Thomas's update to the "Re: [PATCH v5 08/11] TAAv5 8" diagram)

It seems that it's a good time to double check if that's what everyone
on the distro side is expecting, namely "tsx=auto will disable TSX
automatically on those parts impacted by TAA for which VERW mitigation
is not available". This seems to reduce the set where we end up
disabling TSX essentially to a few very recent processors (e.g.
CascadeLake some second gen, Bx stepping?). If that's what we are all
expecting/are planning to do, I suspect Red Hat would go with tsx=auto
as a default since the set of impacted processors can be documented.

Anyway, auto isn't right yet.

Jon.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-22  4:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-21 20:22 [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 00/10] TAAv7 0 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:23 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 01/10] TAAv7 1 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:24 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 02/10] TAAv7 2 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:25 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 03/10] TAAv7 3 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:26 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 04/10] TAAv7 4 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:27 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 05/10] TAAv7 5 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:28 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 06/10] TAAv7 6 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:29 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 07/10] TAAv7 7 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:30 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 08/10] TAAv7 8 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 20:31 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 09/10] TAAv7 9 Michal Hocko
2019-10-21 20:32 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH v7 10/10] TAAv7 10 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-21 21:32 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 00/10] TAAv7 0 Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-21 23:06   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-22  0:34   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22  4:10 ` Jon Masters [this message]
2019-10-22  5:53   ` [MODERATED] Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22  7:58 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** [PATCH v7 07/10] TAAv7 7 Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 16:55   ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22  8:00 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** [PATCH v7 09/10] TAAv7 9 Michal Hocko
2019-10-22  8:15 ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** [PATCH v7 03/10] TAAv7 3 Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 14:42   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 16:48     ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 17:01       ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-22 17:35         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 14:38 ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 16:58   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 14:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 17:00   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 17:16     ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 18:07       ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 15:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 18:36   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 18:59     ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 16:51 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 04/10] TAAv7 4 Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 17:02   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 18:00     ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 18:12       ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 19:16         ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-22 19:28           ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 20:02             ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-22 20:48               ` [MODERATED] Jon Masters
2019-10-22 20:54               ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 04/10] TAAv7 4 Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 21:38                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 21:46                   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 22:06                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 22:13                       ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 17:44   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 19:04     ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 21:29       ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-22 21:53         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 22:05           ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23  0:27             ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-23  5:25               ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-23  6:46                 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23 13:28                   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-23 14:39                     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23  1:33   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-23  6:48     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 17:25 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 01/10] TAAv7 1 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23  9:26   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 17:26 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 20:44   ` [MODERATED] Jon Masters
2019-10-22 17:47 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 03/10] TAAv7 3 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 18:39 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 10/10] TAAv7 10 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23  7:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22 21:20 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 04/10] TAAv7 4 Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 21:35   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-22 21:44     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22 22:03       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-23  1:16         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23 15:46 ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 00/10] TAAv7 0 Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23 17:11   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23 21:49     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23 22:12   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-24 14:08     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found] ` <5dae165e.1c69fb81.4beee.e271SMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2019-10-24 20:53   ` [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH v7 06/10] TAAv7 6 Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-24 21:00     ` Luck, Tony
2019-10-24 21:33       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-01 16:35 [MODERATED] Jon Masters

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