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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@linaro.org>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Thomas Garnier <thgarnie@google.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Dave Martin <dave.martin@arm.com>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 00/30] implement KASLR for ARM
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:49:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu_-O5ZW=SzXe=0nRExfYWjyMWoJ3eObaZiiftPVNojibw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a1zJPsHphvoOitQbTaY-7rzFndGKatM2=aeUphkG+3T_A@mail.gmail.com>

On 14 August 2017 at 16:30, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Ard Biesheuvel
> <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
>> This series implements randomization of the placement of the core ARM kernel
>> inside the lowmem region. It consists of the following parts:
>>
>> - changes that allow us to build vmlinux as a PIE executable which retains
>>   the metadata required to fix up all absolute symbol references at runtime
>> - changes that eliminate absolute references from low-level code that may
>>   execute with the MMU off: this removes the need to perform explicit cache
>>   maintenance after the absolute references have been fixed up at runtime with
>>   the caches enabled
>> - changes to the core kernel startup code to take the physical offset into
>>   account when creating the virtual mapping (the pa-to-va mapping remains
>>   unchanged)
>> - changes to the decompressor to take the KASLR offset into account when
>>   placing the kernel in physical memory
>> - changes to the UEFI stub code to choose the KASLR offset and communicate
>>   it to the decompressor
>
> Would it make sense to also randomize the pa-to-va mapping on top of this?
> That can certainly be a later follow-up, I'm just trying to think of the options
> we have, given that the kernel is now relocatable and we can support arbitrary
> pa-to-va mappings already.
>

We could randomize PAGE_OFFSET as well. That allows you to build a
3g/1g split kernel and execute it as 2g/2g split. Pretty neat!

Randomizing the VA to PA mapping while keep PAGE_OFFSET constant will
result in either memory to be thrown away (because it is virtually
mapped below PAGE_OFFSET) or lowmem space to be wasted (because there
is a hole between PAGE_OFFSET and the VA of the lowest lowmem address)

So i think there may be opportunities, but I haven't quite figured
them out myself yet.

> Can you explain how the random seed is passed from the bootloader
> to the kernel when we don't use EFI? Is this implemented at all? I see
> that you add a seed to "/chosen/kaslr-seed" in the EFI stub when using
> the EFI boot services, but I don't see where that value gets read again
> when we relocate the kernel.

/chosen/kaslr-seed is only used on arm64, not on ARM. We could add
code to the decompressor that uses /chosen/kaslr-seed, but it is a bit
fiddly because the execution environment is so constrained, and there
is no simple access to symbols defined by the core kernel's linker
script.

On UEFI systems, the kaslr offset is calculated based on the UEFI
memory map, which describes all of memory and has reservations for the
DTB, the initrd etc. The EFI stub is linked together with the
decompressor, so passing the kaslr offset simply involves setting a
variable.

To allow other bootloaders to do the same, the kaslr metadata is
exposed via a zImage header, containing the values of PAGE_OFFSET, the
base of the vmalloc area and the randomization granularity. A
bootloader can read these values, and taking the size of DRAM and the
placement of initrd and DTB into account, it can choose a value for
kaslr offset and write it back into the zImage header.

This is a bit involved, but it is really difficult to make these
things backward compatible, i.e., passing something in a register is
not possible if that register was not mandated to be zero initially.

Similarly, the decompressor passed the kaslr offset to the startup
code in the core kernel. It does so by passing it in r3 and jumping 4
bytes past the entry point. This way, we are backward compatible with
configurations where the decompressor is not used, because in that
case, you always jump to the first instruction, which zeroes r3.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-14 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-14 12:53 [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 00/30] implement KASLR for ARM Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 01/30] asm-generic: add .data.rel.ro sections to __ro_after_init Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 14:26   ` [kernel-hardening] " Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 02/30] ARM: assembler: introduce adr_l, ldr_l and str_l macros Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 15:29   ` [kernel-hardening] " Dave Martin
2017-08-14 15:38     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 15:50       ` Dave Martin
2017-08-14 16:18         ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-08-14 16:22           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 16:33             ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-08-14 16:42             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-08-14 16:56               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 15:32   ` Dave Martin
2017-08-14 15:40     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 15:53       ` Dave Martin
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 03/30] ARM: head-common.S: use PC-relative insn sequence for __proc_info Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 04/30] ARM: head-common.S: use PC-relative insn sequence for idmap creation Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 05/30] ARM: head.S: use PC-relative insn sequence for secondary_data Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 06/30] ARM: kernel: use relative references for UP/SMP alternatives Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 07/30] ARM: head: use PC-relative insn sequence for __smp_alt Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 08/30] ARM: sleep.S: use PC-relative insn sequence for sleep_save_sp/mpidr_hash Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 09/30] ARM: head.S: use PC-relative insn sequences for __fixup_pv_table Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 10/30] ARM: head.S: use PC relative insn sequence to calculate PHYS_OFFSET Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 11/30] ARM: kvm: replace open coded VA->PA calculations with adr_l call Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 12/30] arm-soc: exynos: replace open coded VA->PA conversions Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 13/30] arm-soc: mvebu: replace open coded VA->PA conversion Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 14/30] arm-soc: various: replace open coded VA->PA calculation of pen_release Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 15/30] ARM: kernel: switch to relative exception tables Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 16/30] ARM: kernel: use relative phys-to-virt patch tables Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 17/30] arm-soc: tegra: make sleep asm code runtime relocatable Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 14:42   ` [kernel-hardening] " Dave Martin
2017-08-14 14:49     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 15:29       ` Dave Martin
2017-08-14 12:53 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 18/30] ARM: kernel: make vmlinux buildable as a PIE executable Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 19/30] ARM: kernel: use PC-relative symbol references in MMU switch code Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 20/30] ARM: kernel: use PC relative symbol references in suspend/resume code Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 16:02   ` [kernel-hardening] " Nicolas Pitre
2017-08-14 18:14     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 18:37       ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 21/30] ARM: mm: export default vmalloc base address Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 22/30] ARM: kernel: refer to swapper_pg_dir via its symbol Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 23/30] ARM: kernel: implement randomization of the kernel load address Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 24/30] ARM: decompressor: explicitly map decompressor binary cacheable Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 25/30] ARM: compressed: factor out zImage header and make it extensible Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 26/30] ARM: decompressor: add KASLR support Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 27/30] efi/libstub: add 'max' parameter to efi_random_alloc() Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 28/30] efi/libstub: check for vmalloc= command line argument Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 29/30] efi/libstub: arm: reserve bootloader supplied initrd in memory map Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-18 11:48   ` [kernel-hardening] " Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-21 10:37   ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-21 10:39     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 12:54 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 30/30] efi/libstub: arm: implement KASLR Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 15:30 ` [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 00/30] implement KASLR for ARM Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-14 15:49   ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2017-08-14 16:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-08-14 16:28       ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-08-14 17:28         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 18:01           ` Nicolas Pitre
2017-08-14 18:08             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-14 16:16     ` Nicolas Pitre

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