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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@inria.fr>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
	Gilles Muller <Gilles.Muller@inria.fr>,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/fair: check for idle core
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 18:11:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6145907.dAfbsivgMF@kreacher> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201021131026.GY2651@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 3:10:26 PM CEST Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 02:19:50PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 01:56:55PM +0200, Julia Lawall wrote:
> > > Prior to 5.8, my machine was using intel_pstate and had few background
> > > tasks.  Thus the problem wasn't visible in practice.  Starting with 5.8
> > > the kernel decided that intel_cpufreq would be more appropriate, which
> > > introduced kworkers every 0.004 seconds on all cores.
> > 
> > That still doesn't make any sense. Are you running the legacy on-demand
> > thing or something?
> > 
> > Rafael, Srinivas, Viresh, how come it defaults to that?
> 
> Does we want something like this?
> 
> ---
>  arch/x86/configs/i386_defconfig   | 3 +--
>  arch/x86/configs/x86_64_defconfig | 3 +--
>  drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig           | 7 +++++--
>  3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/configs/i386_defconfig b/arch/x86/configs/i386_defconfig
> index 78210793d357..c343ad459737 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/configs/i386_defconfig
> +++ b/arch/x86/configs/i386_defconfig
> @@ -41,8 +41,7 @@ CONFIG_PM_DEBUG=y
>  CONFIG_PM_TRACE_RTC=y
>  CONFIG_ACPI_DOCK=y
>  CONFIG_ACPI_BGRT=y
> -CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE=y
> -CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=y
> +CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_SCHEDUTIL=y
>  CONFIG_X86_ACPI_CPUFREQ=y
>  CONFIG_EFI_VARS=y
>  CONFIG_KPROBES=y
> diff --git a/arch/x86/configs/x86_64_defconfig b/arch/x86/configs/x86_64_defconfig
> index 9936528e1939..23e1ea85c1ec 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/configs/x86_64_defconfig
> +++ b/arch/x86/configs/x86_64_defconfig
> @@ -38,8 +38,7 @@ CONFIG_PM_DEBUG=y
>  CONFIG_PM_TRACE_RTC=y
>  CONFIG_ACPI_DOCK=y
>  CONFIG_ACPI_BGRT=y
> -CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE=y
> -CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=y
> +CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_SCHEDUTIL=y
>  CONFIG_X86_ACPI_CPUFREQ=y
>  CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y
>  CONFIG_EFI_VARS=y
> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig b/drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig
> index 2c7171e0b001..8dfca6e9b836 100644
> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig
> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/Kconfig
> @@ -37,8 +37,7 @@ config CPU_FREQ_STAT
>  choice
>  	prompt "Default CPUFreq governor"
>  	default CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE if ARM_SA1100_CPUFREQ || ARM_SA1110_CPUFREQ
> -	default CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_SCHEDUTIL if ARM64 || ARM
> -	default CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_SCHEDUTIL if X86_INTEL_PSTATE && SMP
> +	default CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_SCHEDUTIL if SMP
>  	default CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_PERFORMANCE
>  	help
>  	  This option sets which CPUFreq governor shall be loaded at
> @@ -71,6 +70,7 @@ config CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE
>  
>  config CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_ONDEMAND
>  	bool "ondemand"
> +	depends on !SMP
>  	select CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND
>  	select CPU_FREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE
>  	help
> @@ -83,6 +83,7 @@ config CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_ONDEMAND
>  
>  config CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_CONSERVATIVE
>  	bool "conservative"
> +	depends on !SMP
>  	select CPU_FREQ_GOV_CONSERVATIVE
>  	select CPU_FREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE
>  	help

The changes above should work.

> @@ -144,6 +145,7 @@ config CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE
>  
>  config CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND
>  	tristate "'ondemand' cpufreq policy governor"
> +	depends on !SMP

But I don't think that we can do this and the one below.

>  	select CPU_FREQ_GOV_COMMON
>  	help
>  	  'ondemand' - This driver adds a dynamic cpufreq policy governor.
> @@ -163,6 +165,7 @@ config CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND
>  config CPU_FREQ_GOV_CONSERVATIVE
>  	tristate "'conservative' cpufreq governor"
>  	depends on CPU_FREQ
> +	depends on !SMP
>  	select CPU_FREQ_GOV_COMMON
>  	help
>  	  'conservative' - this driver is rather similar to the 'ondemand'
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-21 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-20 16:37 [PATCH] sched/fair: check for idle core Julia Lawall
2020-10-21  7:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 11:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 12:27   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 11:20 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 11:56   ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 12:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 12:42       ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 12:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 18:18           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-21 18:15         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-21 19:47           ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 20:25             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-21 13:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-21 18:11         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2020-10-22  4:53           ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22  7:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 10:59             ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22 11:45               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 12:02                 ` default cpufreq gov, was: " Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 12:19                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 12:29                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 14:52                       ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 14:58                         ` Colin Ian King
2020-10-22 15:12                           ` Phil Auld
2020-10-22 16:35                             ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 17:59                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 20:32                                 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 20:39                                   ` Phil Auld
2020-10-22 15:25                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-22 15:55                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-22 16:29                           ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-22 20:10                           ` Giovanni Gherdovich
2020-10-22 20:16                             ` Giovanni Gherdovich
2020-10-23  7:03                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-10-23 17:46                               ` Tom Lendacky
2020-10-26 19:52                                 ` Fontenot, Nathan
2020-10-22 15:45                       ` A L
2020-10-22 15:55                         ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-23  5:23                           ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22 16:23                   ` [PATCH] cpufreq: Avoid configuring old governors as default with intel_pstate Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-23  6:29                     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-23 11:59                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-23 15:15                     ` [PATCH v2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-27  3:13                       ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-27 11:11                   ` default cpufreq gov, was: [PATCH] sched/fair: check for idle core Qais Yousef
2020-10-27 11:26                     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-27 11:42                       ` Qais Yousef
2020-10-27 11:48                         ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-23  6:24                 ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-23 15:06                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-27  3:13                     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-10-22 11:21             ` AW: " Walter Harms
2020-10-21 12:28     ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 12:25   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 12:47     ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 12:56       ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 13:18         ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 13:24           ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 15:08             ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 15:18               ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 15:23                 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 15:33                   ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 15:19               ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-21 17:00                 ` Mel Gorman
2020-10-21 17:39                   ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 13:48           ` Julia Lawall
2020-10-21 15:26             ` Mel Gorman

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