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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	kernel-tls-handshake@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/18] nvme-fabrics: parse options 'keyring' and 'tls_key'
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 14:36:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d67d9932-96eb-3548-cf40-b48a6db95739@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1bfbb7c-d8df-0386-1048-f141cb6e22bc@grimberg.me>

On 4/3/23 14:24, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>>>> Parse the fabrics options 'keyring' and 'tls_key' and store the
>>>> referenced keys in the options structure.
>>>
>>> Can you explain the reasoning to why a user need to pass a keyring
>>> given that we already set up one?
>>>
>> Choice.
>> With a single keyring we can only have a single identity.
>> But there might be configurations where we want to have different PSKs
>> for the same identity (eg for key rotation).
> 
> How do you expect that rotation would work with this?
> 
The user creates a new keyring, adds the necessary keys to it, and then
either
- updates the keyring for nvmet (via configfs)
or
- reconnects using the new keyring

> How does nvmet handle a non-nvme keyring?
> 
There is a configfs attribute 'param_keyring', allowing you to use a 
different keyring (the nvme one is just the default).

>> With this option we can prepare a new keyring, and use that instead of 
>> the old one.
> 
> On an existing controller?
> 
Sure; when we are updating the keyring and the key id the controller 
will use that after the next reset.
Much like we do for DH-CHAP nowadays.

>> (And it really doesn't add much complexity...)
> 
> I know, it just adds one more argument, and I want to understand if it
> is really needed.

I do agree that the keyring argument would not necessarily required if 
we pass in the key id, but I'll be needing the keyring for secure 
concatenation. And plan is to move DH-HMAC-CHAP over to keyrings, too.

So I'd prefer to keep it.

Cheers,

Hannes
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-03 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-29 13:59 [PATCHv2 00/18] nvme: In-kernel TLS support for TCP Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 01/18] nvme-keyring: register '.nvme' keyring and add CONFIG_NVME_TLS Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 14:49   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 15:24     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 15:04   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 15:26     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-30  8:53   ` Daniel Wagner
2023-03-30 14:38     ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 02/18] nvme-keyring: define a 'psk' keytype Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 03/18] nvme: add TCP TSAS definitions Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 04/18] nvme-tcp: add definitions for TLS cipher suites Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 05/18] net/tls: implement ->read_sock() Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 15:37   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 15:41     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 15:43       ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 15:44   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 06/18] nvme/tcp: allocate socket file Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 15:57   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 07/18] nvme-keyring: implement nvme_tls_psk_default() Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 15:35   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 08/18] security/keys: export key_lookup() Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 09/18] nvme-tcp: enable TLS handshake upcall Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-30 12:54   ` Daniel Wagner
2023-03-30 12:59     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-30 15:03   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-30 17:16     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 10/18] nvme-tcp: fixup send workflow for kTLS Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-30 15:24   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-30 17:26     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-31  5:49     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-31  6:03       ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-03 12:20         ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-03 14:59           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-03 15:51             ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-03 18:48               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-03 22:36                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 11/18] nvme-tcp: control message handling for recvmsg() Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-30 15:25   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 12/18] nvme-fabrics: parse options 'keyring' and 'tls_key' Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-30 15:33   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-30 17:34     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-03 12:24       ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-03 12:36         ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2023-04-03 13:07           ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-03 14:11             ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-03 16:13               ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 13/18] nvmet: make TCP sectype settable via configfs Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-30 16:07   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-30 17:37     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-03 12:31       ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-03 12:43         ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 14/18] nvmet-tcp: allocate socket file Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-30 16:08   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-30 17:37     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 15/18] nvmet-tcp: enable TLS handshake upcall Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-03 12:51   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-03 14:05     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 16/18] nvmet-tcp: rework sendpage for kTLS Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-03 12:52   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 17/18] nvmet-tcp: control messages for recvmsg() Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-03 12:59   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-03-29 13:59 ` [PATCH 18/18] nvmet-tcp: add configfs attribute 'param_keyring' Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-03 13:03   ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-03 14:13     ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-03 15:53       ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-14 10:30         ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 13:50           ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-04-17 14:01             ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-04-17 15:12               ` Sagi Grimberg

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