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From: Luca Ceresoli <luca@lucaceresoli.net>
To: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org
Subject: Re: Remote I/O bus
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 16:08:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f619831-f27e-447e-42ea-69227f7a31d0@lucaceresoli.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191004132210.GA714804@kroah.com>

Hi Greg,

On 04/10/19 15:22, Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 01:04:56PM +0200, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> on an embedded system I currently have a standard platform device:
>>
>> .-----.  data  .--------.
>> | CPU |--------| DEVICE |
>> '-----'   bus  '--------'
>>
>> The driver is a standard platform driver that uses ioread32() and
>> iowrite32() to access registers.
>>
>> So far, so good.
>>
>> Now in a new design I have the same device in an FPGA, external to the
>> SoC. The external FPGA is not reachable via an I/O bus, but via SPI (or
>> I2C). A microprocessor in the FPGA acts as a bridge: as an SPI client it
>> receives register read/write requests from the CPU, forwards them to the
>> devices on the in-FPGA data bus as a master, then sends back the replies
>> over SPI.
>>
>>                        SoC <- | -> FPGA
>>
>> .-----.  data   .---------.       .--------.  data   .--------.
>> | CPU |---------| SPI CTL |-------| BRIDGE |---------| DEVICE |
>> '-----'  bus A  '---------'  SPI  '--------'  bus B  '--------'
>>
>>
>> What would be a proper way to model this in the Linux kernel?
>>
>> Of course I can hack the drivers to hijack them on SPI, but I'm trying
>> to solve the problem in a better way. IMO "a proper way" implies that
>> the platform driver does not need to be aware of the existence of the
>> bridge.
>>
>> Note: in the real case there is more than one device to handle.
>>
>> At first sight I think this should be modeled with a "bridge" device that:
>>
>>  * is a SPI device
>>  * implements a "platform bus" where regular platform devices can be
>>    instantiated, similar to a "simple-bus"
> 
> Yes, make your own "bus", and have the SPI device be your "host
> controller" in that it bridges the SPI bus to your "FPGA bus".
> 
> The driver model is set up for this, it should be not that complex to do
> so.  If you have specific questions, just let me know.  "Clean" examples
> of what to do is the greybus code as that's probably one of the newest
> busses to be added to the kernel.
> 
>> In device tree terms:
>>
>> &amba { /* data bus A in picture */
>>
>>     spi0: spi@42000000 {
>>         reg = <0x42000000 0x1000>;
>>         #address-cells = <1>;
>>
>>         io-over-spi-bridge@1 { /* data bus B */
>>             reg = <1>; /* slave select pin 1 */
>>             compatible = "linux,io-over-spi-bridge";
>>             #address-cells = <1>;
>>             #size-cells = <1>;
>>
>>             mydevice@4000 {
>>                 /* 1 kB I/O space at 0x4000 on bus B */
>>                 reg = <0x4000 0x1000>;
>>             };
>>         };
>>     };
>> };
>>
>> The io-over-spi driver is supposed to request allocation of a virtual
>> memory area that:
>>  1. is as large as the address space on bus B
>>  2. is __iomem (non cached, etc)
>>  3. is not mapped on the physical CPU address space (bus A)
>>  4. page faults at every read/write access, triggering a callback
>>     that starts an SPI transaction, waits for the result and returns
> 
> I don't think you can map memory to be "on an SPI bus", unless you have
> support for that in your hardware controller itself.  Trying to map
> memory in this way is odd, just treat the devices out off the bus as
> "devices that need messages sent to them", and you should be fine.  It's
> not memory-mapped iomemory, so don't think of it that way.

If I got you correctly, this means I cannot reuse the existing device
drivers unmodified as I was hoping to. They won't be 'struct
platform_device' instances anymore, they will become 'struct
mybus_device' instances. And as such they won't be allowed to call
ioread32() / iowrite32(), but will have to call mybus_ioread32() and
mybus_iowrite32(). Correct?

Thanks,
-- 
Luca

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-04 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-04 11:04 Remote I/O bus Luca Ceresoli
2019-10-04 13:22 ` Greg KH
2019-10-04 14:08   ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2019-10-04 14:54     ` Greg KH
2019-10-04 15:08       ` Luca Ceresoli
2019-10-04 21:51         ` Valdis Klētnieks
2019-10-05 22:29           ` Luca Ceresoli
2019-10-06  0:19             ` Valdis Klētnieks
2019-10-06  9:18             ` Greg KH
2019-10-07  7:48               ` Luca Ceresoli

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