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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
	ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [TECH TOPIC] What kernel documentation could be
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 10:57:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220623105747.079ac92b@sal.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875ykrrb45.fsf@intel.com>

Em Thu, 23 Jun 2022 12:18:50 +0300
Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com> escreveu:

> On Sat, 18 Jun 2022, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org> wrote:
> > The big missing feature on Sphinx itself is with regards to per-C-type
> > domain. So, if we have one struct and one function both called "foo",
> > the cross-references will be broken. This issue is known since Sphinx
> > 3.1, and there are already patches fixing it since then (I remember
> > testing them) but, up to today, the Sphinx upstream patches meant
> > to fix it weren't applied yet (as far as I can tell).  
> 
> https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/restructuredtext/domains.html#namespacing
> 
> Integrating that needs to be done carefully, though, to not make a mess
> of it.
> 
> > One thing that probably be solved on a different way is to have
> > a better solution for things like:
> >
> > 	Functions for feature 1
> > 	=======================
> >
> > 	.. kernel-doc:: include/some_header.h
> > 	   :doc: Feature 1
> >
> > 	.. kernel-doc:: include/some_header.h
> > 	   :functions:
> > 		func1
> > 		func2
> >
> > 	Functions for feature 2
> > 	=======================
> >
> > 	.. kernel-doc:: include/some_header.h
> > 	   :doc: Feature 2
> >
> > 	.. kernel-doc:: include/some_header.h
> > 	   :functions:
> > 		func3
> > 		func4  
> 
> Yeah, currently that leads to parsing the header four times by
> kernel-doc the script.

Yes.

> The solution would be to finally convert the
> script to a proper python Sphinx extension that can do caching. (This is
> how it works in Hawkmoth, FWIW.)

That's one solution, but see: there is already a python extension
that currently calls kernel-doc everytime. It could, instead,
cache the rst returned by its first run (or a parsed version of it)
and use the cached results the other 3 times.

Porting kernel-doc to python could be doable, but not trivial, due to several
reasons:

- it should keep running standalone, as otherwise debugging parsing issues
  on kernel-doc would be a lot harder. In particular, kernel-doc --none is
  really helpful to report kernel-doc tag errors;
- regressions will likely be introduced on a change like that;
- regular contributors to kernel-doc will need to ramp up with the newer
  version;
- a port like that could increase the script run time, as the
  optimizations and regular expressions there could behave different on
  python.

> > Perhaps we could change Kernel-doc in a way that doing just:
> >
> > 	.. kernel-doc:: include/some_header.h
> >
> > would be enough.  
> 
> The order in nicely flowing documentation is not necessarily the same as
> the order in nicely flowing source code. I expect it to be much more
> acceptable to tweak the rst to achieve this than to do source code
> rearrangement to generate nice documentation.

True, but independently if the script would be rewritten in python or not,
one way would be to enrich the 'DOCS:' kernel-doc tag in order to mention 
there the symbols that belong to each part of the document, e. g. something
like:

	/**
	 * DOC: foo
	 *
	 * Some comments...
	 *
	 * symbols:
	 *     foo
	 *     bar
	 */

One advantage is that all documentation will be on a single place,
so hopefully it would be easier to maintain.

Also, on documents using `DOC:` with such new `symbols` tag, kernel-doc 
could validate if all documented symbols are singly included at all `DOC:`
sessions and if any symbols are missed/renamed/removed.

Regards,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-23  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-17 20:57 [TECH TOPIC] What kernel documentation could be Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-17 20:57 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-17 21:48 ` Laurent Pinchart
2022-06-17 21:48   ` Laurent Pinchart
2022-06-27 15:18   ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-18  8:24 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-18  8:24   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-18 11:03   ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-06-18 11:16     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-18 11:16       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-18 14:37       ` Miguel Ojeda
2022-06-23  9:18   ` Jani Nikula
2022-06-23  9:57     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2022-06-23 10:30       ` Jani Nikula
2022-06-23 13:40       ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-24  7:33         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-24 16:37           ` Markus Heiser
2022-06-27 15:27             ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-27 15:31               ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-06-28  7:43               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-28  7:57                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-06-28 11:01                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-07-02 12:43                     ` Stephen Rothwell
2022-06-24 22:57           ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-25  9:10             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-25 14:00               ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-25 18:11                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-06-26  7:55                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-26  9:26                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-26  9:53                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-27 15:28                       ` Liam Howlett
2022-06-27 15:54                         ` Christian Brauner
2022-06-27 16:27                         ` Mark Brown
2022-06-28 10:53                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-28 16:13                         ` Luck, Tony
2022-06-27 15:34                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-06-27 17:07                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-02 10:52                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2022-06-25 17:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2022-06-25 17:48   ` Laurent Pinchart

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