From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>
Cc: ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org,
Chris Mason <clm@fb.clm>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 08:55:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4iPWXRQxGQOXO-eCmRn7HeDp0NvSUq-o3eQjFPRkA1eoQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200713042547.GO34333@vkoul-mobl>
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 9:26 PM Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Mauro,
>
> On 09-07-20, 13:11, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > Em Mon, 06 Jul 2020 06:30:01 -0700
> > Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> escreveu:
> > >
> > > $ git grep -i -w -P '\w*slave\w*' drivers | \
> > > cut -f1,2 -d/ | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -20 | cat -n
> > > 1 5683 drivers/net
> > > 2 2118 drivers/gpu
> > > 3 1807 drivers/dma
> > > 4 1389 drivers/i2c
> > > 5 866 drivers/interconnect
> > > 6 835 drivers/soundwire
> > > 7 821 drivers/spi
> > > 8 698 drivers/w1
> > > 9 508 drivers/media
> > > 10 481 drivers/infiniband
> > > 11 440 drivers/ata
> > > 12 317 drivers/scsi
> > > 13 267 drivers/fsi
> > > 14 240 drivers/tty
> > > 15 225 drivers/vme
> > > 16 223 drivers/staging
> > > 17 157 drivers/mmc
> > > 18 155 drivers/usb
> > > 19 141 drivers/video
> > > 20 140 drivers/char
> >
> > It sounds that, as soon after this patch gets merged, the mailing lists
> > will be flooded by lots of patches replacing such terms with something
> > else :-(
> >
> > Doing a quick look at the media subsystem, it sounds that most terms
> > come from I2C master/slave and DiSEqC terminology, as defined by their
> > specs (and the others seem to be derived from some hardware vendor
> > specific terminology).
> >
> > As they're all supported by the current specs, if one would want
> > to replace them, it should first ensure that the supporting specs
> > should be using a different terminology, as otherwise replacing
> > them would just make harder for anyone trying to understand the
> > code.
>
> I think waiting for specs may result in long delays, we all know how
> 'fast' spec bodies work!
>
> Putting my soundwire maintainer hat, I see more than 1K uses of 'slave'
> in the subsystem due to MIPI defined terms of SoundWire Master/Slave, so
> I am planning to replace that and not wait for MIPI to update the spec.
Sounds good.
> A similar approach where we discuss with relevant stakeholder and arrive
> at replacement terms and swap them would be great
Right, just like any other coding-style cleanup, stage it the way that
makes the most sense for the subsystem you maintain.
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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-04 20:02 [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Dan Williams
2020-07-04 20:31 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-04 23:41 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 0:10 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-05 1:10 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Kees Cook
2020-07-05 2:44 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-06 11:15 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-07-06 15:53 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05 2:54 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-04 20:44 ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 23:34 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 2:12 ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-05 2:56 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 3:23 ` James Bottomley
2020-07-05 3:26 ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-07-04 21:14 ` Olof Johansson
2020-07-04 21:25 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " James Bottomley
2020-07-04 21:51 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-04 23:39 ` Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 0:08 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-05 1:32 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-05 17:50 ` opal hart
2020-07-04 23:42 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Dave Airlie
2020-07-05 0:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 7:06 ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06 7:10 ` NeilBrown
2020-07-06 7:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 7:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-07-06 10:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-06 12:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 12:59 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-06 13:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-06 13:30 ` Joe Perches
2020-07-09 11:11 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2020-07-13 4:25 ` Vinod Koul
2020-07-13 15:55 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2020-07-05 0:41 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 4:30 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-10 16:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-05 4:55 ` Willy Tarreau
2020-07-06 3:13 ` Daniel Palmer
2020-07-06 12:45 ` Chris Mason via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-06 14:06 ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-07-06 15:55 ` Chris Mason via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-06 16:06 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 4:17 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 15:22 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-06 15:40 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 13:23 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Tibor Raschko
2020-07-06 16:29 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-07-07 4:00 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07 5:56 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 6:49 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 13:37 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:24 ` Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 15:33 ` Randy Dunlap
2020-07-07 15:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 15:55 ` Bird, Tim
2020-07-07 6:56 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Harrosh, Boaz
2020-07-07 8:54 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 13:41 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 14:45 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-07-07 20:56 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-07 21:48 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 12:13 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 18:30 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Shuah Khan
2020-07-06 23:58 ` Tibor Raschko
[not found] ` <20200709124327.369781a0@coco.lan>
2020-07-09 16:01 ` Shuah Khan
2020-07-09 16:13 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-09 16:32 ` James Bottomley
2020-07-09 16:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-07 4:04 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-06 19:15 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-07 0:48 ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 21:26 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-07-07 23:54 ` Tibor Raschko
2020-07-07 4:08 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-07 9:36 ` Mark Brown
2020-07-06 21:31 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:10 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [Tech-board-discuss] " Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 22:17 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-06 22:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-06 23:03 ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-07-08 3:42 ` Stephen Hemminger
2020-07-07 6:56 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " SeongJae Park via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-08 7:12 ` Dan Williams
2020-07-08 9:28 ` SeongJae Park via Ksummit-discuss
2020-07-07 7:51 ` Christian Brauner
2020-07-17 8:35 ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-26 15:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
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