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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	arjan.van.de.ven@intel.com, dave.hansen@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 11:41:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <02bd3fdd-1b73-6cab-fb09-38ba933396bd@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1518518198.12890.48.camel@infradead.org>

On 13/02/2018 11:36, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>> - if the VM has IBRS_ALL, pass through the MSR when it is zero and
>>> intercept writes when it is one (no writes should happen)
>>>  
>>> - if the VM doesn't have IBRS_ALL, do as we are doing now, independent
>>> of what the host spectre_v2_ibrs_all() setting is.
>> We end up having to turn IBRS on again on vmexit then, taking care that
>> no conditional branch can go round it. So that becomes an
>> *unconditional* wrmsr or lfence in the vmexit path. We really don't
>> want that.
>
> Note that being able to keep it simple in KVM was basically what made
> the difference between me tolerating IBRS_ALL as Intel currently define
> it, and throwing my toys out of the pram (as I had done in the first
> iterations of this patch).

You have my vote. :)  Really, IBRS_ALL makes no sense and it would be
nice to know _why_ Intel is pushing something that makes no sense.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-13 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-12 15:27 [PATCH 1/2] x86/speculation: Correct Speculation Control microcode blacklist again David Woodhouse
2018-02-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/speculation: Support "Enhanced IBRS" on future CPUs David Woodhouse
2018-02-13  7:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2018-02-13  8:12     ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13  8:02   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-13  8:15     ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13  9:58       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-13 10:21         ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 10:36           ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 10:41             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2018-02-13 10:53               ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-13 10:55                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-16  9:58               ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-16 10:08                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-16 10:21                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-16 11:04                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-02-16 12:10                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-15 15:21     ` Pavel Machek

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