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From: "Singh, Brijesh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>
To: Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>
Cc: "Singh, Brijesh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"rkrcmar@redhat.com" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: SVM: Fix workaround for AMD Errata 1096
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:06:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <70251139-76ac-780c-08c1-91c9e5c94432@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91eade26-e5cc-4841-e891-7aaa309471bc@amd.com>


Ooops sorry, I was fwding thread HW folks to correct my understanding.
I will update you with result. thanks


On 7/16/19 1:05 PM, Singh, Brijesh wrote:
> Here is a thread.. but more recent is available
> 
> https://marc.info/?t=156322283300001&r=1&w=2
> 
> Paolo, Sean and others have also replied to it which you can see on
> marc.info.
> 
> -Brijesh
> 
> On 7/16/19 11:20 AM, Liran Alon wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 16 Jul 2019, at 19:10, Singh, Brijesh <brijesh.singh@amd.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/16/19 10:56 AM, Liran Alon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Jul 2019, at 18:48, Singh, Brijesh <brijesh.singh@amd.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/15/19 3:30 PM, Liran Alon wrote:
>>>>>> According to AMD Errata 1096:
>>>>>> "On a nested data page fault when CR4.SMAP = 1 and the guest data read generates a SMAP violation, the
>>>>>> GuestInstrBytes field of the VMCB on a VMEXIT will incorrectly return 0h instead the correct guest instruction
>>>>>> bytes."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As stated above, errata is encountered when guest read generates a SMAP violation. i.e. vCPU runs
>>>>>> with CPL<3 and CR4.SMAP=1. However, code have mistakenly checked if CPL==3 and CR4.SMAP==0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The SMAP violation will occur from CPL3 so CPL==3 is a valid check.
>>>>>
>>>>> See [1] for complete discussion
>>>>>
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__patchwork.kernel.org_patch_10808075_-2322479271&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=Jk6Q8nNzkQ6LJ6g42qARkg6ryIDGQr-yKXPNGZbpTx0&m=RAt8t8nBaCxUPy5OTDkO0n8BMQ5l9oSfLMiL0TLTu6c&s=Nkwe8rTJhygBCIPz27LXrylptjnWyMwB-nJaiowWpWc&e=
>>>>
>>>> I still don’t understand. SMAP is a mechanism which is meant to protect a CPU running in CPL<3 from mistakenly referencing data controllable by CPL==3.
>>>> Therefore, SMAP violation should be raised when CPL<3 and data referenced is mapped in page-tables with PTE with U/S bit set to 1. (i.e. User accessible).
>>>>
>>>> Thus, we should check if CPL<3 and CR4.SMAP==1.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In this particular case we are dealing with NPF and not SMAP fault per
>>> say.
>>>
>>> What typically has happened here is:
>>>
>>> - user space does the MMIO access which causes a fault
>>> - hardware processes this as a VMEXIT
>>> - during processing, hardware attempts to read the instruction bytes to
>>> provide decode assist. This is typically done by data read request from
>>> the RIP that the guest was at. While doing so, we may hit SMAP fault
>>
>> How can a SMAP fault occur when CPL==3? One of the conditions for SMAP is that CPL<3.
>>
>> I think the confusion is that I believe a code mapped as user-accessible in page-tables but runs with CPL<3
>> should be the one which does the MMIO. Rather then code running in CPL==3.
>>
>> The sequence of events I imagine to trigger the Errata is as follows:
>> 1) Guest maps code in page-tables as user-accessible (i.e. PTE with U/S bit set to 1).
>> 2) Guest executes this code with CPL<3 (even though mapped as user-accessible which is a security vulnerability in itself…) which access data that is not mapped or marked as reserved in NPT and therefore cause #NPF.
>> 3) Physical CPU DecodeAssist feature attempts to fill-in guest instruction bytes. So it reads as data the guest instructions while CPU is currently with CPL<3, CR4.SMAP=1 and code is mapped as user-accessible. Therefore, this fill-in raise a SMAP violation which cause #NPF to be raised to KVM with 0 instruction bytes.
>>
>> BTW, this also means that in order to trigger this, CR4.SMEP should be set to 0. As otherwise, instruction couldn’t have been executed to raise #NPF in the first place. Maybe we can add this as another condition to recognise the Errata?
>>
>> -Liran
>>
>>> because internally CPU is doing a data read from the RIP to get those
>>> instruction bytes. Since it hit the SMAP fault hence it was not able
>>> to decode the instruction to provide the insn_len. So we are first
>>> checking if it was a fault caused from CPL==3 and SMAP is enabled.
>>> If so, we are hitting this errata and it can be workaround.
>>>
>>> -Brijesh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-16 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-15 20:30 KVM: SVM: Fix workaround for AMD Errata 1096 Liran Alon
2019-07-15 20:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Liran Alon
2019-07-16 15:48   ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 15:56     ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 16:07       ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 16:10       ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 16:20         ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 16:41           ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 16:56             ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 17:27               ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 17:27               ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-16 17:35                 ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 19:28                   ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 19:34                     ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 19:39                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-16 19:45                         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 19:50                           ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 19:47                         ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 19:41                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 19:52                         ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 20:02                       ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 20:07                         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 20:13                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-16 20:09                         ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 20:27                           ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 20:54                             ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 21:53                               ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 18:05           ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 18:06             ` Singh, Brijesh [this message]
2019-07-15 20:30 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: x86: Rename need_emulation_on_page_fault() to handle_no_insn_on_page_fault() Liran Alon
2019-07-16 15:48   ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 16:01     ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 16:10       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 19:33         ` Singh, Brijesh

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