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From: Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@linux.ibm.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	brijesh.singh@amd.com, frankja@linux.ibm.com,
	dgilbert@redhat.com, pair@us.ibm.com,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	cohuck@redhat.com, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 00/18] Refactor configuration of guest memory protection
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 17:01:07 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sgf9i8sy.fsf@morokweng.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ec71a816-b9e6-6f06-def6-73eb5164b0cc@redhat.com>


Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:

> On 05/06/20 01:30, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
>> Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:
>>> On 04/06/20 23:54, Thiago Jung Bauermann wrote:
>>>> QEMU could always create a PEF object, and if the command line defines
>>>> one, it will correspond to it. And if the command line doesn't define one,
>>>> then it would also work because the PEF object is already there.
>>>
>>> How would you start a non-protected VM?
>>> Currently it's the "-machine"
>>> property that decides that, and the argument requires an id
>>> corresponding to "-object".
>>
>> If there's only one object, there's no need to specify its id.
>
> This answers my question.  However, the property is defined for all
> machines (it's in the "machine" class), so if it takes the id for one
> machine it does so for all of them.

I don't understand much about QEMU internals, so perhaps it's not
practical to implement but from an end-user perspective I think this
logic can apply to all architectures (since my understanding is that all
of them use only one object): make the id optional. If it's not
specified, then there must be only one object, and the property will
implicitly refer to it.

Then, if an architecture doesn't need to specify parameters at object
creation time, it can be implicitly created and the user doesn't have to
worry about this detail.

--
Thiago Jung Bauermann
IBM Linux Technology Center

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-05 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-21  3:42 [RFC v2 00/18] Refactor configuration of guest memory protection David Gibson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 01/18] target/i386: sev: Remove unused QSevGuestInfoClass David Gibson
2020-05-29  9:01   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-02  3:04   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 02/18] target/i386: sev: Move local structure definitions into .c file David Gibson
2020-05-29  9:03   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-02  3:05   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 03/18] target/i386: sev: Rename QSevGuestInfo David Gibson
2020-05-29  9:05   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-02  3:06   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 04/18] target/i386: sev: Embed SEVState in SevGuestState David Gibson
2020-05-29  9:09   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-04  3:15     ` David Gibson
2020-06-02  3:07   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 05/18] target/i386: sev: Partial cleanup to sev_state global David Gibson
2020-06-02  3:08   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 06/18] target/i386: sev: Remove redundant cbitpos and reduced_phys_bits fields David Gibson
2020-05-29  9:11   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-02  3:09   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 07/18] target/i386: sev: Remove redundant policy field David Gibson
2020-06-02  3:13   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 08/18] target/i386: sev: Remove redundant handle field David Gibson
2020-06-02  3:16   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 09/18] target/i386: sev: Unify SEVState and SevGuestState David Gibson
2020-05-29  9:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-02  3:18   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 10/18] guest memory protection: Add guest memory protection interface David Gibson
2020-05-25 10:27   ` Greg Kurz
2020-06-03 10:09     ` David Gibson
2020-06-02  1:44   ` Richard Henderson
2020-06-03 10:09     ` David Gibson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 11/18] guest memory protection: Handle memory encrption via interface David Gibson
2020-05-25 10:26   ` Greg Kurz
2020-06-04  3:27     ` David Gibson
2020-06-02  3:21   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 12/18] guest memory protection: Perform KVM init " David Gibson
2020-06-02  3:39   ` Richard Henderson
2020-06-02  3:45     ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:42 ` [RFC v2 13/18] guest memory protection: Move side effect out of machine_set_memory_encryption() David Gibson
2020-06-02  3:41   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:43 ` [RFC v2 14/18] guest memory protection: Rework the "memory-encryption" property David Gibson
2020-06-02  3:54   ` Richard Henderson
2020-06-04  5:56     ` David Gibson
2020-06-04  6:19       ` Thomas Huth
2020-06-04  6:25         ` David Gibson
2020-05-21  3:43 ` [RFC v2 15/18] guest memory protection: Decouple kvm_memcrypt_*() helpers from KVM David Gibson
2020-06-02  4:13   ` Richard Henderson
2020-06-03 10:18     ` David Gibson
2020-05-21  3:43 ` [RFC v2 16/18] guest memory protection: Add Error ** to GuestMemoryProtection::kvm_init David Gibson
2020-05-29  9:16   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-06-02  4:15   ` Richard Henderson
2020-05-21  3:43 ` [RFC v2 17/18] spapr: Added PEF based guest memory protection David Gibson
2020-05-25 11:14   ` Greg Kurz
2020-05-29  7:59   ` Ram Pai
2020-06-04  3:46     ` David Gibson
2020-05-21  3:43 ` [RFC v2 18/18] guest memory protection: Alter virtio default properties for protected guests David Gibson
2020-06-05 10:45   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-05 16:04     ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-06 20:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-07  3:07     ` David Gibson
2020-06-09 10:16       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-09 15:40         ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-09 15:57           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-09 16:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-10  4:45           ` David Gibson
2020-06-10  4:39         ` David Gibson
2020-06-10  8:48           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-10 10:07             ` David Gibson
2020-06-10 13:21             ` Halil Pasic
2020-05-29 22:19 ` [RFC v2 00/18] Refactor configuration of guest memory protection Sean Christopherson
2020-06-01  9:16   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-04  3:11     ` David Gibson
2020-06-04 16:20       ` Sean Christopherson
2020-06-04  3:05   ` David Gibson
2020-06-04  4:39 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2020-06-04  6:21   ` David Gibson
2020-06-04 21:54     ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2020-06-04 22:47       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-04 23:30         ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2020-06-04 23:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-05 20:01             ` Thiago Jung Bauermann [this message]
2020-06-06  8:24               ` David Gibson
2020-06-08 15:10                 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2020-06-04  6:44   ` David Gibson
2020-06-04  9:08     ` Greg Kurz
2020-06-06  8:45       ` David Gibson
2020-06-05 10:55 ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-06  8:44   ` David Gibson
2020-06-09 10:11     ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-10  4:36       ` David Gibson

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