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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: harry harry <hiharryharryharry@gmail.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Cc: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mathieu.tarral@protonmail.com,
	stefanha@redhat.com, libvir-list@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why guest physical addresses are not the same as the corresponding host virtual addresses in QEMU/KVM? Thanks!
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 08:43:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a163c2d8-d8a1-dc03-6230-a2e104e3b039@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+-xGqMMa-DB1SND5MRugusDafjNA9CVw-=OBK7q=CK1impmTQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 13/10/20 07:46, harry harry wrote:
> Now, let's assume array[0]'s GPA is different from its corresponding
> HVA. I think there might be one issue like this: I think MMU's hardware
> logic to translate ``GPA ->[extended/nested page tables] -> HPA''[1]
> should be the same as ``VA-> [page tables] -> PA"[2]; if true, how does
> KVM find the correct HPA with the different HVA (e.g., array[0]'s HVA is
> not  0x0000000000000081) when there are EPT violations?

It has separate data structures that help with the translation.  These
data structures are specific to KVM for GPA to HVA translation, while
for HVA to HPA the Linux functionality is reused.

> BTW, I assume the software logic for KVM to find the HPA with a given
> HVA (as you said like below) should be the same as the hardware logic in
> MMU to translate ``GPA -> [extended/nested page tables] -> HPA''.

No, the logic to find the HPA with a given HVA is the same as the
hardware logic to translate HVA -> HPA.  That is it uses the host
"regular" page tables, not the nested page tables.

In order to translate GPA to HPA, instead, KVM does not use the nested
page tables.  It performs instead two steps, from GPA to HVA and from
HVA to HPA:

* for GPA to HVA it uses a custom data structure.

* for HVA to HPA it uses the host page tables as mentioned above.

This is because:

* the GPA to HVA translation is the one that is almost always
sufficient, and the nested page tables do not provide this information

* even if GPA to HPA is needed, the nested page tables are built lazily
and therefore may not always contain the requested mapping.  In addition
using HPA requires special steps (such as calling get_page/put_page) and
often these steps need an HVA anyway.

Paolo


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-13  6:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-11  5:26 Why guest physical addresses are not the same as the corresponding host virtual addresses in QEMU/KVM? Thanks! harry harry
2020-10-11  7:29 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-10-11 14:11   ` harry harry
2020-10-12 16:54     ` Sean Christopherson
2020-10-13  4:30       ` harry harry
2020-10-13  4:52         ` Sean Christopherson
     [not found]           ` <CA+-xGqO4DtUs3-jH+QMPEze2GrXwtNX0z=vVUVak5HOpPKaDxQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <CA+-xGqMMa-DB1SND5MRugusDafjNA9CVw-=OBK7q=CK1impmTQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-10-13  6:43               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2020-10-13 20:36                 ` harry harry
2020-10-14  8:27                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-10-14  8:29                   ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-10-15  3:45                     ` harry harry
2020-10-13  7:03             ` Sean Christopherson
2020-10-13 22:40               ` harry harry
2020-10-14  8:28                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-10-15  3:43                   ` harry harry
2020-10-13  5:00       ` harry harry

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