From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
nouveau <nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@dell.com>,
Alex Hung <alex.hung@canonical.com>,
Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@redhat.com>, Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Nouveau] [PATCH 1/7] Revert "ACPI / OSI: Add OEM _OSI string to enable dGPU direct output"
Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2019 18:26:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5228680.jBuKzensJx@kreacher> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACO55ttC-o9bKU7nHNcfjm2YnffiupQ7UHUt7BYL3fu+yEyTbw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thursday, September 5, 2019 5:51:23 PM CEST Karol Herbst wrote:
> is there any update on the testing with my patches? On the hardware I
> had access to those patches helped, but I can't know if it also helped
> on the hardware for which those workarounds where actually added.
Alex Hung and Mario need to answer this question I think.
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:52 AM Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, August 15, 2019 12:47:35 AM CEST Dave Airlie wrote:
> > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 07:31, Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This reverts commit 28586a51eea666d5531bcaef2f68e4abbd87242c.
> > > >
> > > > The original commit message didn't even make sense. AMD _does_ support it and
> > > > it works with Nouveau as well.
> > > >
> > > > Also what was the issue being solved here? No references to any bugs and not
> > > > even explaining any issue at all isn't the way we do things.
> > > >
> > > > And even if it means a muxed design, then the fix is to make it work inside the
> > > > driver, not adding some hacky workaround through ACPI tricks.
> > > >
> > > > And what out of tree drivers do or do not support we don't care one bit anyway.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think the reverts should be merged via Rafael's tree as the original
> > > patches went in via there, and we should get them in asap.
> > >
> > > Acked-by: Dave Airlie <airlied@redhat.com>
> >
> > The _OSI strings are to be dropped when all of the needed support is there in
> > drivers, so they should go away along with the requisite driver changes.
> >
>
> that goes beside the point. firmware level workarounds for GPU driver
> issues were pushed without consulting with upstream GPU developers.
> That's something which shouldn't have happened in the first place. And
> yes, I am personally annoyed by the fact, that people know about
> issues, but instead of contacting the proper persons and working on a
> proper fix, we end up with stupid firmware level workarounds. I can't
> see why we ever would have wanted such workarounds in the first place.
>
> And I would be much happier if the next time something like that comes
> up, that the drm mailing list will be contacted as well or somebody
> involved.
>
> We could have also just disable the feature inside the driver (and
> probably we should have done that a long time ago, so that is
> essentially our fault, but still....)
>
> > I'm all for dropping then when that's the case, so please feel free to add ACKs
> > from me to the patches in question at that point.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rafael
> >
> >
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-05 16:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-14 21:31 [PATCH 0/7] Adding a proper workaround for fixing RTD3 issues with Nouveau Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 1/7] Revert "ACPI / OSI: Add OEM _OSI string to enable dGPU direct output" Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:49 ` Alex Hung
2019-08-14 22:47 ` [Nouveau] " Dave Airlie
2019-08-15 13:55 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:04 ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:13 ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:15 ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:17 ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:23 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:35 ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:41 ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:19 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:25 ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:34 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 14:36 ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-15 14:37 ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-08-15 16:19 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-15 17:43 ` Takashi Iwai
2019-08-15 18:34 ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:59 ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-15 14:11 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-19 9:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-09-05 15:51 ` Karol Herbst
2019-09-05 16:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2019-09-09 21:07 ` Alex Hung
2019-10-21 2:14 ` Alex Hung
2019-10-21 8:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-10-21 8:48 ` Karol Herbst
2019-10-21 8:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-09-05 16:35 ` Alex Deucher
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 2/7] Revert "ACPI / OSI: Add OEM _OSI string to enable NVidia HDMI audio" Karol Herbst
2020-12-10 17:59 ` Lyude Paul
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 3/7] Revert "ACPI / OSI: Add OEM _OSI strings to disable NVidia RTD3" Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 23:34 ` Alex Hung
2019-08-15 4:44 ` Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 4/7] drm/nouveau/pci: enable pcie link changes for pascal Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 5/7] drm/nouveau/pci: add nvkm_pcie_get_speed Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 6/7] drm/nouveau/pci: save the boot pcie link speed and restore it on fini Karol Herbst
2019-08-14 21:31 ` [PATCH 7/7] drm/nouveau: abort runtime suspend if we hit an error Karol Herbst
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