From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/8] of: property: Add fw_devlink support for optional properties
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:25:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXi9s_b0xjaQ3n_-qFfdwfBtxnrhYfVuRENJM5UJ9TUwg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGETcx_gHRd9UYHvSsHX_=NFF+HEJkamJp3JcpojuJob_a8_DA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Saravana,
CC iommu
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:55 PM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 1:33 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 02:26:40PM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > > Not all DT bindings are mandatory bindings. Add support for optional DT
> > > bindings and mark iommus, iommu-map, dmas as optional DT bindings.
> >
> > I don't think we can say these are optional or not. It's got to be a
> > driver decision somehow.
>
> Right, so maybe the word "optional" isn't a good name for it. I can
> change that if you want.
>
> The point being, fw_devlink can't block the probe of this driver based
> on iommu property. We let the driver decide if it wants to
> -EPROBE_DEFER or not or however it wants to handle this.
The driver cannot make that decision, cfr. below.
> > For example, if IOMMU is optional, what happens with this sequence:
> >
> > driver probes without IOMMU
> > driver calls dma_map_?()
> > IOMMU driver probes
> > h/w accesses DMA buffer --> BOOM!
Does it really behave that way? Or does it continue without IOMMU?
> Right. But how is this really related to fw_devlink? AFAICT, this is
> an issue even today. If the driver needs the IOMMU, then it needs to
> make sure the IOMMU has probed? What am I missing?
Individual I/O (IOMMU slave) drivers are completely unaware of the
presence or absence of an IOMMU; they just use the DMA API, which is the
same regardless of an IOMMU being used or not.
While for GPIO/IRQ/CLK/DMA/... have request/get_{gpio,irq,clk,dma,...}
APIs for a driver to get a reference, which can return -EPROBE_DEFER, no
such thing exists for IOMMUs. This is handled by the IOMMU core
instead.
Using the IOMMU or not is more like a system policy decision.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
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-- Linus Torvalds
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-10 8:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <CGME20210205222651eucas1p28ef87073dea33c1c5224c14aa203bec5@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2021-02-05 22:26 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Make fw_devlink=on more forgiving Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] driver core: fw_devlink: Detect supplier devices that will never be added Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] of: property: Don't add links to absent suppliers Saravana Kannan
2021-02-09 21:25 ` Rob Herring
2021-02-05 22:26 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] driver core: Add fw_devlink.strict kernel param Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] of: property: Add fw_devlink support for optional properties Saravana Kannan
2021-02-09 21:33 ` Rob Herring
2021-02-09 21:54 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 8:25 ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2021-02-05 22:26 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] driver core: fw_devlink: Handle suppliers that don't use driver core Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] irqdomain: Mark fwnodes when their irqdomain is added/removed Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] PM: domains: Mark fwnodes when their powerdomain " Saravana Kannan
2021-02-05 22:26 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] clk: Mark fwnodes when their clock provider " Saravana Kannan
2021-02-08 15:38 ` Rob Herring
2021-02-08 23:34 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 11:44 ` [PATCH] clk: Mark fwnodes when their clock provider is added Tudor Ambarus
2021-02-10 11:44 ` Tudor Ambarus
2021-02-11 13:00 ` Greg KH
2021-02-13 0:37 ` Stephen Boyd
[not found] ` <CGME20210325133159eucas1p297b769beb681743fb32d362a86cc6e3e@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2021-03-25 13:31 ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-03-25 15:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-03-25 18:25 ` Nicolas Saenz Julienne
2021-03-26 18:13 ` Stephen Boyd
2021-03-26 18:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-04-21 3:26 ` Guenter Roeck
2021-04-21 7:00 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 19:13 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-03-30 15:42 ` Guenter Roeck
2021-03-30 16:26 ` Saravana Kannan
[not found] ` <161317679292.1254594.15797939257637374295@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
2021-02-14 21:15 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] clk: Mark fwnodes when their clock provider is added/removed Saravana Kannan
2021-02-06 2:45 ` [PATCH v4 0/8] Make fw_devlink=on more forgiving Saravana Kannan
2021-02-06 19:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-06 20:47 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-08 8:40 ` Marek Szyprowski
2021-02-08 23:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 8:19 ` Tudor.Ambarus
2021-02-10 8:54 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-10 10:02 ` Tudor.Ambarus
2021-02-10 19:14 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-11 13:00 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-11 13:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-12 2:59 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-12 8:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-12 20:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-15 12:38 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-15 21:26 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-16 8:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-16 18:48 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-16 20:31 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-17 23:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-25 9:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-15 15:16 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-15 21:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2021-02-16 12:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-15 11:19 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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