From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Subject: Re: fsnotify path hooks
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:59:27 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxhWE9JGOZ_jN9_RT5EkACdNWXOryRsm6Wg_zkaDNDSjsA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxjOyuvpJ7Tv3cGmv+ek7+z9BJBF4sK_-OLxwePUrHERUg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 5:06 PM Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > As long as "exp_export: export of idmapped mounts not yet supported.\n"
> > > I don't think it matters much.
> > > It feels like adding idmapped mounts to nfsd is on your roadmap.
> > > When you get to that we can discuss adding fsnotify path hooks to nfsd
> > > if Jan agrees to the fsnotify path hooks concept.
> >
> > I was looking at the patch and thinking about it for a few days already. I
> > think that generating fsnotify event later (higher up the stack where we
> > have mount information) is fine and a neat idea. I just dislike the hackery
> > with dentry flags.
>
> Me as well. I used this hack for fast POC.
>
> If we stick with the dual hooks approach, we will have to either pass a new
> argument to vfs helpers or use another trick:
>
> Convert all the many calls sites that were converted by Christian to:
> vfs_XXX(&init_user_ns, ...
> because they do not have mount context, to:
> vfs_XXX(NULL, ...
>
> Inside the vfs helpers, use init_user_ns when mnt_userns is NULL,
> but pass the original mnt_userns argument to fsnotify_ns_XXX hooks.
> A non-NULL mnt_userns arg means "path_notify" context.
> I have already POC code for passing mnt_userns to fsnotify hooks [1].
>
> I did not check if this assumption always works, but there seems to
> be a large overlap between idmapped aware callers and use cases
> that will require sending events to a mount mark.
>
The above "trick" is pretty silly as I believe Christian intends
to fix all those call sites that pass init_user_ns.
> > Also I'm somewhat uneasy that it is random (from
> > userspace POV) when path event is generated and when not (at least that's
> > my impression from the patch - maybe I'm wrong). How difficult would it be
> > to get rid of it? I mean what if we just moved say fsnotify_create() call
> > wholly up the stack? It would mean more explicit calls to fsnotify_create()
> > from filesystems - as far as I'm looking nfsd, overlayfs, cachefiles,
> > ecryptfs. But that would seem to be manageable. Also, to maintain sanity,
>
> 1. I don't think we can do that for all the fsnotify_create() hooks, such as
> debugfs for example
> 2. It is useless to pass the mount from overlayfs to fsnotify, its a private
> mount that users cannot set a mark on anyway and Christian has
> promised to propose the same change for cachefiles and ecryptfs,
> so I think it's not worth the churn in those call sites
> 3. I am uneasy with removing the fsnotify hooks from vfs helpers and
> trusting that new callers of vfs_create() will remember to add the high
> level hooks, so I prefer the existing behavior remains for such callers
>
So I read your proposal the wrong way.
You meant move fsnotify_create() up *without* passing mount context
from overlayfs and friends.
So yeh, I do think it is manageable. I think the best solution would be
something along the lines of wrappers like the following:
static inline int vfs_mkdir(...)
{
int error = __vfs_mkdir_nonotify(...);
if (!error)
fsnotify_mkdir(dir, dentry);
return error;
}
And then the few call sites that call the fsnotify_path_ hooks
(i.e. in syscalls and perhaps later in nfsd) will call the
__vfs_xxx_nonotify() variant.
I suppose that with this approach I could make all the relevant events
available for mount mark with relatively little churn.
I will try it out.
Thanks,
Amir.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-31 21:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-28 15:56 [RFC][PATCH] fanotify: allow setting FAN_CREATE in mount mark mask Amir Goldstein
2021-03-30 7:31 ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 9:31 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-30 16:24 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-31 10:08 ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-31 10:57 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-08 11:44 ` open_by_handle_at() in userns Amir Goldstein
2021-04-08 12:55 ` Christian Brauner
2021-04-08 14:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-04-08 15:54 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-08 16:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-04-08 16:48 ` Frank Filz
2021-04-08 15:34 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-08 15:41 ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 12:12 ` [RFC][PATCH] fanotify: allow setting FAN_CREATE in mount mark mask Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 12:33 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-30 12:53 ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 12:55 ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 13:54 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-30 14:17 ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-30 14:56 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-31 9:46 ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-31 11:29 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-31 12:17 ` Christian Brauner
2021-03-31 12:59 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-31 12:54 ` Jan Kara
2021-03-31 14:06 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-03-31 20:59 ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2021-04-01 10:29 ` fsnotify path hooks Jan Kara
2021-04-01 14:18 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-02 8:20 ` Amir Goldstein
2021-04-06 8:35 ` Jan Kara
2021-03-31 13:06 ` [RFC][PATCH] fanotify: allow setting FAN_CREATE in mount mark mask J. Bruce Fields
2021-03-30 12:20 ` Amir Goldstein
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