From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.3 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,INCLUDES_PATCH,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B306FC433DF for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 13:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F0BE204EF for ; Tue, 26 May 2020 13:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lists.infradead.org header.i=@lists.infradead.org header.b="sqjfCTg6" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 7F0BE204EF Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=arm.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-arm-kernel-bounces+infradead-linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20170209; h=Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Cc:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post: List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References: Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: List-Owner; bh=72gHo5jgACcn5loi+gyAUzNx5qNlAyh6seqX7GWtpzA=; b=sqjfCTg6PwRq5O YBeS+GnugqgFuozeodxkycJPYCBJ0O6OOwjgb8KStF4MRDGIMkdxvJXkDveoClujX9crajmyg4MAm dPLfiFxJ3mW+OzPbwCsR4cLkwSoK4ZeOl/LhJoyhQ+xPztK+EznDAArPvr1iBaxHkfatDYZe6/udz UdwPggDvel3pzTDcw+ypBFi6zfWenqyWwLP7PRM54Q+lbLMRHFMJ+aUscTUY+VbqVngyP7dpb3p0w B8xdsOS8t5FDUx3a9hz5U1ANauqsx7CUzAM/vMropMjdxXs8clEr2u203ESb3U94baJOFRoqlhvRw W2ADP186N9JKAVE+80YA==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1jdZEk-0003N5-C8; Tue, 26 May 2020 13:03:18 +0000 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.110.172]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1jdZEg-0003Mc-QQ for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 13:03:16 +0000 Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2DC1FB; Tue, 26 May 2020 06:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arm.com (usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BCBC43F6C4; Tue, 26 May 2020 06:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 14:03:08 +0100 From: Dave Martin To: "Eric W. Biederman" Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] arm64: Expose FAR_EL1 tag bits in sigcontext Message-ID: <20200526130306.GQ5031@arm.com> References: <87zha1ea98.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> <874ks9drb6.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <874ks9drb6.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20200526_060314_944776_27C93735 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 57.08 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Will Deacon , Andrey Konovalov , Kevin Brodsky , Oleg Nesterov , Kostya Serebryany , Evgenii Stepanov , Catalin Marinas , Vincenzo Frascino , Peter Collingbourne , Linux ARM , Richard Henderson Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+infradead-linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 02:24:45PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Peter Collingbourne writes: > > > On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:39 AM Eric W. Biederman wrote: > >> > >> Peter Collingbourne writes: > >> > >> > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:26 AM Dave Martin wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 09:55:03AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > >> >> > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 03:00:12PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote: > >> >> > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:53 AM Dave Martin wrote: > >> >> > > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 05:58:21PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote: > >> >> > > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/signal.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/signal.c > >> >> > > > > index baa88dc02e5c..5867f2fdbe64 100644 > >> >> > > > > --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/signal.c > >> >> > > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/signal.c > >> >> > > > > @@ -648,6 +648,7 @@ static int setup_sigframe(struct > >> >> > > > > rt_sigframe_user_layout *user, > >> >> > > > > __put_user_error(ESR_MAGIC, &esr_ctx->head.magic, err); > >> >> > > > > __put_user_error(sizeof(*esr_ctx), &esr_ctx->head.size, err); > >> >> > > > > __put_user_error(current->thread.fault_code, > >> >> > > > > &esr_ctx->esr, err); > >> >> > > > > + current->thread.fault_code = 0; > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Perhaps, but we'd need to be careful. For example, can we run out of > >> >> > > > user stack before this and deliver a SIGSEGV, but with the old > >> >> > > > fault_code still set? Then we'd emit the old fault code with the > >> >> > > > new "can't deliver signal" signal, which doesn't make sense. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Stuff may also go wrong with signal prioritisation. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > If a higher-priority signal (say SIGINT) comes in after a data abort > >> >> > > > enters the kernel but before the resulting SIGSEGV is dequeued for > >> >> > > > delivery, wouldn't we deliver SIGINT first, with the bogus fault code? > >> >> > > > With your change we'd then have cleared the fault code by the time we > >> >> > > > deliver the SIGSEGV it actually relates to, if I've understood right. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Today, I think we just attach that fault code to every signal that's > >> >> > > > delivered until something overwrites or resets it, which means that > >> >> > > > a signal that needs fault_code gets it, at the expense of attaching > >> >> > > > it to a bunch of other random signals too. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Checking the signal number and si_code might help us to know what we > >> >> > > > should be doing with fault_code. We need to have sure userspace can't > >> >> > > > trick us with a non kernel generated signal here. It would also be > >> >> > > > necessary to check how PTRACE_SETSIGINFO interacts with this. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > With these possible interactions in mind I think we should store the > >> >> > > fault code and fault address in kernel_siginfo instead of > >> >> > > thread_struct (and clear these fields when we receive a siginfo from > >> >> > > userspace, i.e. in copy_siginfo_from_user which is used by > >> >> > > ptrace(PTRACE_SETSIGINFO) among other places). That way, the > >> >> > > information is clearly associated with the signal itself and not the > >> >> > > thread, so we don't need to worry about our signal being delivered out > >> >> > > of order. > >> >> > > >> >> > Hmm, I can't see a way to do that that isn't horribly invasive in the core > >> >> > signal code. Can you? > >> > > >> > I think I've come up with a way that doesn't seem to be too invasive. > >> > See patch #1 of the series that I'm about to send out. > >> > > >> >> > But generally, I agree: the per-thread handling of fault_address and > >> >> > fault_code appears to be quite broken in the face of signal prioritisation > >> >> > and signals that don't correspond directly to hardware trap. It would be > >> >> > nice to have some tests for this... > >> >> > > >> >> > If we want to pile on more bodges, perhaps we could stash the signal number > >> >> > to which the fault_{address,code} relate, and then check that at delivery > >> >> > and clear on a match. I hate it. > >> >> > >> >> I agree with Daniel's suggestion in principle, but I was also concerned > >> >> about whether it would be too invasive elsewhere. > >> >> > >> >> Question though: does the core code take special care to make sure that > >> >> a force_sig cannot be outprioritised by a regular signal? If so, > >> >> perhaps we get away with it. I ask this, because the same same issue > >> >> may be hitting other arches otherwise. > >> > > >> > Not as far as I can tell. There does appear to be prioritisation for > >> > synchronous signals [1] but as far as I can tell nothing to > >> > distinguish one of these signals from one with the same signal number > >> > sent from userspace (e.g. via kill(2)). > >> > >> The si_code will differ between signals generated between userspace > >> and signals generated by the kernel. > >> > >> We do allow a little bit of ptrace and sending to yourself to spoof > >> kernel generated signals, for reasons of debugging and process migration > >> where an existing process needs to be reconstructed. But the defenses > >> should be strong enough you can assume that we reliably distinguish > >> between a signal from userspace and a signal from the kernel. > > > > So check for SIGBUS || SIGSEGV and one of the below si_codes, and only > > add the context in that case? Seems fragile to me, but I suppose I > > could live with it. > > > >> I don't fully follow what you are doing but this feels like the > >> kind of case where a new si_code has been defined as well as additional > >> fields in siginfo. > > > > There is no new si_code for this, the information will be exposed for > > several existing si_code types (BUS_ADRERR, BUS_ADRALN, BUS_MCEERR_AR, > > SEGV_ACCERR, SEGV_MAPERR), and possibly others in the future > > (particularly SEGV_MTESERR, which is part of the proposed MTE patch > > set). Note that we already have a union field for BUS_MCEERR_AR, and > > we may want to expose it for the other si_codes that already have > > union fields as well. > > > > That being said, taking a closer look at siginfo, I think we are in > > luck and we might be able to make this work in a reasonable way by > > reusing padding (see below). > > > >> In your patchset I really hate that you were going back to > >> force_sig_info, and filling out struct siginfo by hand. That is an > >> error prone pattern, and I have fixed enough bugs in the kernel to prove > >> that. > > > > To be fair, most of the callers are in helper functions that take > > explicit parameters similar to force_sig_fault et al, and the SIGILL > > one could easily be made that way as well. > > > >> I take exception to the idea that including the full address might break > >> userspace. That means typically means someone has been too lazy to look > >> and see what userspace is doing. When that userspace that might break > >> is the same userspace you are changing the kernel to serve that makes me > >> nervous. AKA the userspace that cares about this signal and how it is > >> represented in siginfo. > > > > It's not a matter of being lazy. This behaviour isn't just an accident > > but has been explicitly documented for years (see the > > tagged-pointers.rst file that I changed: "Non-zero tags are not > > preserved when delivering signals."), so users can reasonably rely on > > it. Furthermore we simply don't have visibility into the majority of > > userspace. For example, there are a lot of closed source Android apps > > out there, and who knows what signal handlers they're installing and > > how they're making use of the si_addr field on e.g. SEGV_MAPERR. We > > can't just change the documented semantics under their feet. > > > > It's also not the same userspace either. The userspace that's > > initially going to be consuming the new fields is in a part of the > > Android system that handles and reports crashes, and that's something > > that we control unlike all the apps. > > > > Finally, the userspace may need to know whether the tag bits were > > actually zero or whether they were just unavailable, otherwise > > userspace could for example produce a misleading crash report. Simply > > having the kernel set the top bits of si_addr wouldn't accomplish that > > due to the kernel's previous behaviour, hence the mask to let > > userspace know which bits are accurate. > > > >> A fix of one instance of SIGILL should not be included with a patch that > >> does something else, and really should come before everything else if > >> possible. > > > > Fair point. I can see if I can split that part out. > > > >> If this information really belongs in struct siginfo (as it sounds like) > >> please actually put the information in siginfo, and let userspace look > >> in siginfo to find it. struct siginfo is a union with plenty of space, > >> and plenty of si_codes. > >> > >> If this applies to multiple cases then it might be trickier but please > >> dig into the details, don't toss things into sigcontext just because > >> you can't figure out a clean design for reporting this. > > > > If we wanted this in siginfo, one idea that I had was to revert commit > > b68a68d3dcc15ebbf23cbe91af1abf57591bd96b and add unsigned char fields > > _addr_top_byte and _addr_top_byte_mask in the padding between > > _addr_lsb and the union (with comments on all the fields of course to > > say when they are filled in). I think that would work since we are > > already clearing padding in siginfo, one nice property of the new > > fields is that the zero values are correct in the case where the > > information isn't being exposed (so old kernels would already have the > > correct behaviour). That would only work on certain architectures > > (i.e. at least alignof(void*) >= 4) so I suppose it could have an > > #ifdef __aarch64__ around it. > > Perhaps add a 4th padding member to the union inside of _sigfault, that > adds something like 4 unsigned long's worth of data, and then have your > fields after the union. > > Is it quite a bit of work to gather that information from the > instructions that faulted? I am just checking that this work is really > makes sense. > > What I really don't understand is how well this problem generalizes to > other architectures to tell if this is something other people need to > solve at some point as well. The broad issue here is how arch-specific fault diagnostics make it into the signal frame, and whether this is needed at all. The address tag bits are one case, but the same basic mechanism is also used to report the type of failed access (read versus write) for SIGSEGV on arm64. (IIRC qemu relies on this for tracking page use / dirtiness in userspace.) Having a way to associate arch metadata of this sort with the specific signal it relates to seems a good idea. That way, we're not relying on internal details of the signal common code such as the precise order signals get delivered in. This concept is certainly applicable to other arches, but I don't know the extent to which they actually depend on it. Ideally, there would be a si_flags field to add simple arch_specific attributes in, but there seems no backwards compatible way to add such a thing for existing signals. (Or is there?) 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