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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Alex Kogan <alex.kogan@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, guohanjun@huawei.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	dave.dice@oracle.com, jglauber@marvell.com, x86@kernel.org,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux@armlinux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rahul.x.yadav@oracle.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com, steven.sistare@oracle.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/5] locking/qspinlock: Introduce CNA into the slow path of qspinlock
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 13:58:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <76d70284-dd6b-009c-710c-cc97bac8146f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10197432-47E5-49D7-AD68-8A412782012B@oracle.com>

On 7/17/19 1:44 PM, Alex Kogan wrote:
>> On Jul 16, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 7/16/19 10:29 AM, Alex Kogan wrote:
>>>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com
>>>> <mailto:longman@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 7/15/19 5:30 PM, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>>>> -#ifndef _GEN_PV_LOCK_SLOWPATH
>>>>>> +#if !defined(_GEN_PV_LOCK_SLOWPATH) && !defined(_GEN_CNA_LOCK_SLOWPATH)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #include <linux/smp.h>
>>>>>> #include <linux/bug.h>
>>>>>> @@ -77,18 +77,14 @@
>>>>>> #define MAX_NODES	4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /*
>>>>>> - * On 64-bit architectures, the mcs_spinlock structure will be 16 bytes in
>>>>>> - * size and four of them will fit nicely in one 64-byte cacheline. For
>>>>>> - * pvqspinlock, however, we need more space for extra data. To accommodate
>>>>>> - * that, we insert two more long words to pad it up to 32 bytes. IOW, only
>>>>>> - * two of them can fit in a cacheline in this case. That is OK as it is rare
>>>>>> - * to have more than 2 levels of slowpath nesting in actual use. We don't
>>>>>> - * want to penalize pvqspinlocks to optimize for a rare case in native
>>>>>> - * qspinlocks.
>>>>>> + * On 64-bit architectures, the mcs_spinlock structure will be 20 bytes in
>>>>>> + * size. For pvqspinlock or the NUMA-aware variant, however, we need more
>>>>>> + * space for extra data. To accommodate that, we insert two more long words
>>>>>> + * to pad it up to 36 bytes.
>>>>>> */
>>>>> The 20 bytes figure is wrong. It is actually 24 bytes for 64-bit as the
>>>>> mcs_spinlock structure is 8-byte aligned. For better cacheline
>>>>> alignment, I will like to keep mcs_spinlock to 16 bytes as before.
>>>>> Instead, you can use encode_tail() to store the CNA node pointer in
>>>>> "locked". For instance, use (encode_tail() << 1) in locked to
>>>>> distinguish it from the regular locked=1 value.
>>>> Actually, the encoded tail value is already shift left either 16 bits
>>>> or 9 bits. So there is no need to shift it. You can assigned it directly:
>>>>
>>>> mcs->locked = cna->encoded_tail;
>>>>
>>>> You do need to change the type of locked to "unsigned int", though,
>>>> for proper comparison with "1".
>>>>
>>> Got it, thanks.
>>>
>> I forgot to mention that I would like to see a boot command line option
>> to force off and maybe on as well the numa qspinlock code. This can help
>> in testing as you don't need to build 2 separate kernels, one with
>> NUMA_AWARE_SPINLOCKS on and one with it off.
> IIUC it should be easy to add a boot option to force off the NUMA-aware spinlock 
> even if it is enabled though config, but the other way around would require 
> compiling in the NUMA-aware spinlock stuff even if the config option is disabled.
> Is that ok?

That is not what I am looking for. If the config option is disabled, the
boot command line option is disabled also. For the on case, one possible
usage scenario is with a VM guest where all the vcpus are pinned to a
physical CPUs with no over-commit and correct numa information. In that
case, one may want to use numa-qspinlock instead of pv-qspinlock.

> Also, what should the option name be?
> "numa_spinlock=on/off” if we want both ways, or “no_numa_spinlock" if we want just the “force off” option?

I think "numa_spinlock=on/off" will be good. The default is "auto" where
it will be turned on when there is more than one numa nodes in the system.

>> For small 2-socket systems,
>> numa qspinlock may not help much.
> It actually helps quite a bit (e.g., speedup of up to 42-57% for will-it-scale on a dual-socket x86 system).
> We have numbers and plots in our paper on arxiv.

I am talking about older 2-socket systems where each socket may have
just a few cpus. Also some Intel CPU can be configured to have 2 numa
nodes per socket. For AMD EPYC, it can be configured to have 4 numa
nodes per socket.

Cheers,
Longman



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  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-17 17:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-15 19:25 [PATCH v3 0/5] Add NUMA-awareness to qspinlock Alex Kogan
2019-07-15 19:25 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] locking/qspinlock: Make arch_mcs_spin_unlock_contended more generic Alex Kogan
2019-07-16 10:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-15 19:25 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] locking/qspinlock: Refactor the qspinlock slow path Alex Kogan
2019-07-16 10:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-16 14:53     ` Alex Kogan
2019-07-16 15:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-15 19:25 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] locking/qspinlock: Introduce CNA into the slow path of qspinlock Alex Kogan
2019-07-15 21:30   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-16 11:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-16 14:26     ` Alex Kogan
2019-07-16 14:44       ` Waiman Long
     [not found]     ` <aa73b86d-902a-bb6f-d372-8645c8299a6d@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <C1C55A40-FDB1-43B5-B551-F9B8BE776DF8@oracle.com>
2019-07-16 14:50         ` Waiman Long
2019-07-17 17:44           ` Alex Kogan
2019-07-17 17:58             ` Waiman Long [this message]
2019-07-16 11:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-16 14:30     ` Alex Kogan
2019-07-16 15:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-16 17:19     ` Alex Kogan
2019-07-16 18:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-17  8:39         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-17  8:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-17 14:52             ` Alex Kogan
     [not found]           ` <FFC2D45A-24B3-40E1-ABBB-1D696E830B23@oracle.com>
2019-07-17 15:09             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-17  2:16   ` Waiman Long
2019-07-17  7:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-17 13:35       ` Waiman Long
2019-07-17 14:42       ` Alex Kogan
2019-07-15 19:25 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] locking/qspinlock: Introduce starvation avoidance into CNA Alex Kogan
2019-07-16 15:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-15 19:25 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] locking/qspinlock: Introduce the shuffle reduction optimization " Alex Kogan
2019-07-16 11:47 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Add NUMA-awareness to qspinlock Nicholas Piggin
     [not found]   ` <7D29555E-8F72-4EDD-8A87-B1A59C3945A6@oracle.com>
2019-07-16 23:07     ` Nicholas Piggin

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