From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBF0ECAAD5 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2022 06:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231179AbiIHGub (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Sep 2022 02:50:31 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:55826 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229936AbiIHGtw (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Sep 2022 02:49:52 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-xb35.google.com (mail-yb1-xb35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b35]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 515DE550A9 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 23:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb35.google.com with SMTP id f131so9384270ybf.7 for ; Wed, 07 Sep 2022 23:49:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=6UU7RPsFxQr+5ujpTkN8WcG542NNzl57+boNHvVA5zY=; b=JG/SHVRfqPRHCrjuBmlApXDX/0abpJphKrT6tyZKJBPfjdSoDudABKV77zHlEN88Fn gauZaKg028mQXz4IhYxWZ6Al32CCP7yJWGueoM6BfqmIyFGbhNHc42e0XX3fkUwzZeB7 iahq4zbGmhiQP33NCZ4T4eKaA3vZuTmEr9lnFAypcBd+txISnaxXaWXjTNPPmjg9GajS 6tRoG+4jxmfz1oriGaY/Kn1wnCqhPvgpDkXyvbhPKfNgBFNHlvzvS89+D7eIK/a1Yl6T kxR18XZMyg4CCoy23A8LpUnI5xLUkeiu/ZUM9+hqU3uz7MWOC86ALqrtypYUZ97mcz9b OvFg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=6UU7RPsFxQr+5ujpTkN8WcG542NNzl57+boNHvVA5zY=; b=ZzMB8zDxZhwls80J8biqf8f0rXyEwOHD9GjMbkY4pFyNdwU8aKe2IDl7ZjYJZxoW6S pi++NQhwr5oMmX59PEGICggfmp6ltpjwVXCzx8lsa3SE72maqAiNWno0MfM966Eg8Pt5 sNZCVG4dxCdYEhiNJ1GVXCZWGtlgEvBjow+KxJPPt/6lJsruPCc5nndQZaneLLaUidl3 zVl8RfbYJu5L6J/Bt8PjA/Gn7De/eb6L3yZCAqKj/rxcuKf/BxJI+U1zqQ82jWiCyukh wKESBcgPOEFHXtuIu+tGeEj+rBc4wvNccoA2zqDoUzNjQhoCXuhwQFV9zXbqK9PCwQc8 3tUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo02d9g7Z2d1NTADqng5aXOE5jrQTiQhT9mc1LMqubpvsAwqXrH0 S8/POBdJ7O/N+L/WBDAI8tRcKar6fH3S37WGt9ml2Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR5jgN0SarKose7cXaAc78GK8TgcCf+kCWZDJ6j/hZNw94xbAsDdKa9I2VH+YZqtbSZxUJOMS41d9AU0E7sKk2c= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:cc4:0:b0:6ae:2a6c:59e6 with SMTP id e4-20020a5b0cc4000000b006ae2a6c59e6mr1980963ybr.59.1662619789134; Wed, 07 Sep 2022 23:49:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220901201502.sn6223bayzwferxv@moria.home.lan> <20220905234649.525vorzx27ybypsn@kmo-framework> <20220906182058.iijmpzu4rtxowy37@kmo-framework> <20220907130323.rwycrntnckc6h43n@kmo-framework> <20220907094306.3383dac2@gandalf.local.home> <20220908063548.u4lqkhquuvkwzvda@kmo-framework> In-Reply-To: <20220908063548.u4lqkhquuvkwzvda@kmo-framework> From: Suren Baghdasaryan Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 23:49:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/30] Code tagging framework and applications To: Kent Overstreet Cc: Steven Rostedt , Michal Hocko , Mel Gorman , Peter Zijlstra , Andrew Morton , Vlastimil Babka , Johannes Weiner , Roman Gushchin , Davidlohr Bueso , Matthew Wilcox , "Liam R. Howlett" , David Vernet , Juri Lelli , Laurent Dufour , Peter Xu , David Hildenbrand , Jens Axboe , mcgrof@kernel.org, masahiroy@kernel.org, nathan@kernel.org, changbin.du@intel.com, ytcoode@gmail.com, Vincent Guittot , Dietmar Eggemann , Benjamin Segall , Daniel Bristot de Oliveira , Valentin Schneider , Christopher Lameter , Pekka Enberg , Joonsoo Kim , 42.hyeyoo@gmail.com, Alexander Potapenko , Marco Elver , Dmitry Vyukov , Shakeel Butt , Muchun Song , arnd@arndb.de, jbaron@akamai.com, David Rientjes , Minchan Kim , Kalesh Singh , kernel-team , linux-mm , iommu@lists.linux.dev, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, LKML Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-bcache@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 11:35 PM Kent Overstreet wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 09:45:18AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:04:28 -0400 > > Kent Overstreet wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 01:00:09PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > Hmm, it seems that further discussion doesn't really make much sense > > > > here. I know how to use my time better. > > > > > > Just a thought, but I generally find it more productive to propose ideas than to > > > just be disparaging. > > > > > > > But it's not Michal's job to do so. He's just telling you that the given > > feature is not worth the burden. He's telling you the issues that he has > > with the patch set. It's the submitter's job to address those concerns and > > not the maintainer's to tell you how to make it better. > > > > When Linus tells us that a submission is crap, we don't ask him how to make > > it less crap, we listen to why he called it crap, and then rewrite to be > > not so crappy. If we cannot figure it out, it doesn't get in. > > When Linus tells someone a submission is crap, he _always_ has a sound, and > _specific_ technical justification for doing so. > > "This code is going to be a considerable maintenance burden" is vapid, and lazy. > It's the kind of feedback made by someone who has looked at the number of lines > of code a patch touches and not much more. I would really appreciate if everyone could please stick to the technical side of the conversation. That way we can get some constructive feedback. Everything else is not helpful and at best is a distraction. Maintenance burden is a price we pay and I think it's the prerogative of the maintainers to take that into account. Our job is to prove that the price is worth paying. > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to kernel-team+unsubscribe@android.com. >