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From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: <axboe@kernel.dk>, <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	<martin.petersen@oracle.com>, <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	<bvanassche@acm.org>, <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	<esc.storagedev@microsemi.com>, <chenxiang66@hisilicon.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 02/24] scsi: allocate separate queue for reserved commands
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2020 15:35:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20ebe296-9e57-b3e3-21b3-63a09ce86036@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39bc2d82-2676-e329-5d32-8acb99b0a204@suse.de>

On 07/04/2020 15:00, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 4/7/20 1:54 PM, John Garry wrote:
>> On 06/04/2020 10:05, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>>> On 3/11/20 7:22 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 09:08:56PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
>>>>> On 10/03/2020 18:32, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:25:28AM +0800, John Garry wrote:
>>>>>>> From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allocate a separate 'reserved_cmd_q' for sending reserved commands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?  Reserved command specifically are not in any way tied to 
>>>>>> queues.
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So the v1 series used a combination of the sdev queue and the per-host
>>>>> reserved_cmd_q. Back then you questioned using the sdev queue for 
>>>>> virtio
>>>>> scsi, and the unconfirmed conclusion was to use a common per-host 
>>>>> q. This is
>>>>> the best link I can find now:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org/msg83177.html
>>>>
>>>> That was just a question on why virtio uses the per-device tags, which
>>>> didn't look like it made any sense.  What I'm worried about here is
>>>> mixing up the concept of reserved tags in the tagset, and queues to use
>>>> them.  Note that we already have the scsi_get_host_dev to allocate
>>>> a scsi_device and thus a request_queue for the host itself.  That seems
>>>> like the better interface to use a tag for a host wide command vs
>>>> introducing a parallel path.
>>>>
>>> Thinking about it some more, I don't think that scsi_get_host_dev() is
>>> the best way of handling it.
>>> Problem is that it'll create a new scsi_device with <hostno:this_id:0>,
>>> which will then show up via eg 'lsscsi'.
>>
>> are you sure? Doesn't this function just allocate the sdev, but do 
>> nothing with it, like probing it?
>>
>> I bludgeoned it in here for PoC:
>>
>> https://github.com/hisilicon/kernel-dev/commit/ef0ae8540811e32776f64a5b42bd76cbed17ba47 
>>
>>
>> And then still:
>>
>> john@ubuntu:~$ lsscsi
>> [0:0:0:0] disk SEAGATE  ST2000NM0045  N004  /dev/sda
>> [0:0:1:0] disk SEAGATE  ST2000NM0045  N004  /dev/sdb
>> [0:0:2:0] disk ATASAMSUNG HM320JI  0_01  /dev/sdc
>> [0:0:3:0] disk SEAGATE  ST1000NM0023  0006  /dev/sdd
>> [0:0:4:0] enclosu HUAWEIExpander 12Gx16  128-
>> john@ubuntu:~$
>>
>> Some proper plumbing would be needed, though.
>>
>>> This would be okay if 'this_id' would have been defined by the driver;
>>> sadly, most drivers which are affected here do set 'this_id' to -1.
>>> So we wouldn't have a nice target ID to allocate the device from, let
>>> alone the problem that we would have to emulate a complete scsi device
>>> with all required minimal command support etc.
>>> And I'm not quite sure how well that would play with the exising SCSI
>>> host template; the device we'll be allocating would have basically
>>> nothing in common with the 'normal' SCSI devices.
>>>
>>> What we could do, though, is to try it the other way round:
>>> Lift the request queue from scsi_get_host_dev() into the scsi host
>>> itself, so that scsi_get_host_dev() can use that queue, but we also
>>> would be able to use it without a SCSI device attached.
>>
>> wouldn't that limit 1x scsi device per host, not that I know if any 
>> more would ever be required? But it does still seem better to use the 
>> request queue in the scsi device.
>>
> My concern is this:
> 
> struct scsi_device *scsi_get_host_dev(struct Scsi_Host *shost)
> {
>      [ .. ]
>      starget = scsi_alloc_target(&shost->shost_gendev, 0, shost->this_id);
>      [ .. ]
> 
> and we have typically:
> 
> drivers/scsi/hisi_sas/hisi_sas_v3_hw.c: .this_id                = -1,
> 
> It's _very_ uncommon to have a negative number as the SCSI target 
> device; in fact, it _is_ an unsigned int already.
> 

FWIW, the only other driver (gdth) which I see uses this API has this_id 
= -1 in the scsi host template.

> But alright, I'll give it a go; let's see what I'll end up with.

note: If we want a fixed scsi_device per host, calling 
scsi_mq_setup_tags() -> scsi_get_host_dev() will fail as shost state is 
not running. Maybe we need to juggle some things there to provide a 
generic solution.

thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-07 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-10 16:25 [PATCH RFC v2 00/24] scsi: enable reserved commands for LLDDs John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/24] scsi: add 'nr_reserved_cmds' field to the SCSI host template John Garry
2020-03-10 23:08   ` Ming Lei
2020-03-11  6:55     ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-03-11  8:00       ` Ming Lei
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/24] scsi: allocate separate queue for reserved commands John Garry
2020-03-10 18:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-10 21:08     ` John Garry
2020-03-11  6:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-11  6:58         ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-03-11  7:51           ` John Garry
2020-04-06  9:05         ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-07 11:54           ` John Garry
2020-04-07 14:00             ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-07 14:35               ` John Garry [this message]
2020-04-07 14:45                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-07 15:19                   ` John Garry
2020-04-07 16:30               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-23 14:13                 ` John Garry
2020-04-23 14:49                   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-04-23 15:33                     ` John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/24] blk-mq: Implement blk_mq_rq_is_reserved() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/24] scsi: Add scsi_{get, put}_reserved_cmd() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/24] csiostor: use reserved command for LUN reset John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/24] scsi: add scsi_cmd_from_priv() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/24] virtio_scsi: use reserved commands for TMF John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/24] scsi: add host tagset busy iterator John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/24] fnic: use reserved commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/24] fnic: use scsi_host_tagset_busy_iter() to traverse commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/24] hpsa: move hpsa_hba_inquiry after scsi_add_host() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/24] hpsa: use reserved commands John Garry
2020-03-11  8:10   ` Ming Lei
2020-03-17  9:38     ` John Garry
2020-03-17  9:48       ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-03-30 13:42         ` John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/24] hpsa: use blk_mq_tagset_busy_iter() to traverse outstanding commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/24] hpsa: drop refcount field from CommandList John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/24] snic: use reserved commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/24] snic: use tagset iter for traversing commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 17/24] aacraid: move scsi_add_host() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 18/24] aacraid: use private commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 19/24] aacraid: replace cmd_list with scsi_host_tagset_busy_iter() John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 20/24] aacraid: use scsi_host_tagset_busy_iter() to traverse outstanding commands John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 21/24] dpt_i2o: drop cmd_list usage John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 22/24] scsi: drop scsi command list John Garry
2020-03-10 18:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-10 20:47     ` John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 23/24] scsi: libsas: aic94xx: hisi_sas: mvsas: pm8001: Allocate Scsi_cmd for slow task John Garry
2020-03-10 16:25 ` [PATCH RFC v2 24/24] scsi: hisi_sas: Use libsas slow task SCSI command John Garry

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