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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Denis Kenzior <denkenz@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/7] crypto: remove ARC4 support from the skcipher API
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 10:50:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200702175022.GA2753@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200702101947.682-5-ardb@kernel.org>

[+linux-wireless, Marcel Holtmann, and Denis Kenzior]

On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 12:19:44PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> Remove the generic ecb(arc4) skcipher, which is slightly cumbersome from
> a maintenance perspective, since it does not quite behave like other
> skciphers do in terms of key vs IV lifetime. Since we are leaving the
> library interface in place, which is used by the various WEP and TKIP
> implementations we have in the tree, we can safely drop this code now
> it no longer has any users.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>

Last year there was a discussion where it was mentioned that iwd uses
"ecb(arc4)" via AF_ALG.  So can we really remove it yet?
See https://lkml.kernel.org/r/97BB95F6-4A4C-4984-9EAB-6069E19B4A4F@holtmann.org
Note that the code isn't in "iwd" itself but rather in "libell" which iwd
depends on: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/libs/ell/ell.git/

Apparently it also uses md4 and ecb(des) too.

Marcel and Denis, what's your deprecation plan for these obsolete and insecure
algorithms?

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-02 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-02 10:19 [RFC PATCH 0/7] crypto: get rid of ecb(arc4) Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-02 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] staging/rtl8192e: switch to RC4 library interface Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-02 10:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-02 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] staging/rtl8192u: " Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-02 10:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-07-02 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] SUNRPC: remove RC4-HMAC-MD5 support from KerberosV Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-02 15:49   ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-07-02 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] crypto: remove ARC4 support from the skcipher API Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-02 17:50   ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2020-07-02 18:21     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-02 23:04       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-18  8:18         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-25  7:06           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-08-04 13:59             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-02 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] crypto: n2 - remove ecb(arc4) support Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-02 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] crypto: bcm-iproc " Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-02 10:19 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] crypto: tcrypt - remove ecb(arc4) testing/benchmarking support Ard Biesheuvel

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