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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Boaz Harrosh <boazh@netapp.com>
Cc: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Matthew Wilcox <mawilcox@microsoft.com>,
	Amit Golander <Amit.Golander@netapp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Add new vma flag VM_LOCAL_CPU
Date: Tue, 15 May 2018 05:03:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180515120355.GE31599@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6999e635-e804-99d0-12fc-c13ff3e9ca58@netapp.com>

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 02:41:41PM +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> That would be very hard. Because that program would:
> - need to be root
> - need to start and pretend it is zus Server with the all mount
>   thread thing, register new filesystem, grab some pmem devices.
> - Mount the said filesystem on said pmem. Create core-pinned ZT threads
>   for all CPUs, start accepting IO.
> - And only then it can start leaking the pointer and do bad things.

All of these things you've done for me by writing zus Server.  All I
have to do now is compromise zus Server.

>   The bad things it can do to the application, not to the Kernel.
>   And as a full filesystem it can do those bad things to the application
>   through the front door directly not needing the mismatch tlb at all.

That's not true.  When I have a TLB entry that points to a page of kernel
ram, I can do almost anything, depending on what the kernel decides to
do with that ram next.  Maybe it's page cache again, in which case I can
affect whatever application happens to get it allocated.  Maybe it's a
kmalloc page next, in which case I can affect any part of the kernel.
Maybe it's a page table, then I can affect any process.

> That said. It brings up a very important point that I wanted to talk about.
> In this design the zuf(Kernel) and the zus(um Server) are part of the distribution.
> I would like to have the zus module be signed by the distro's Kernel's key and
> checked on loadtime. I know there is an effort by Redhat guys to try and sign all
> /sbin/* servers and have Kernel check these. So this is not the first time people
> have thought about that.

You're getting dangerously close to admitting that the entire point
of this exercise is so that you can link non-GPL NetApp code into the
kernel in clear violation of the GPL.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-15 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-14 17:28 [PATCH] mm: Add new vma flag VM_LOCAL_CPU Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-14 18:26 ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15  7:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-15 10:45     ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-14 19:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-14 19:37   ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15  0:41     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-15 10:43       ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15 11:11         ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-15 11:41           ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15 12:03             ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2018-05-15 13:29               ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15 13:50                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-15 14:10                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15 14:18                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-15 14:30                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15 12:09             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-15 12:31               ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15 11:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-15 12:01           ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15 12:07         ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-15 12:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-15 13:19           ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-18 14:14         ` Christopher Lameter
2018-05-22 16:05           ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-22 16:18             ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-22 16:46               ` Christopher Lameter
2018-05-22 16:56                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-22 17:03                 ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-22 17:35                   ` Christopher Lameter
2018-05-22 17:51                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-23 17:30                     ` Dave Hansen
2018-05-23 17:46                       ` Nadav Amit
2018-05-23 18:10             ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-14 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-15  0:44   ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-05-15 11:54     ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15 13:24       ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15 14:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-15 14:36         ` Boaz Harrosh
2018-05-15 14:19 ` Dave Hansen

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