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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: "Darrick J . Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfs: allocate sector sized IO buffer via page_frag_alloc
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 18:03:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190225100325.GA10093@ming.t460p> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190225084623.GA8397@ming.t460p>

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 04:46:25PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 03:36:48PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 12:09:04PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > XFS uses kmalloc() to allocate sector sized IO buffer.
> > ....
> > > Use page_frag_alloc() to allocate the sector sized buffer, then the
> > > above issue can be fixed because offset_in_page of allocated buffer
> > > is always sector aligned.
> > 
> > Didn't we already reject this approach because page frags cannot be
> 
> I remembered there is this kind of issue mentioned, but just not found
> the details, so post out the patch for restarting the discussion.
> 
> > reused and that pages allocated to the frag pool are pinned in
> > memory until all fragments allocated on the page have been freed?
> 
> Yes, that is one problem. But if one page is consumed, sooner or later,
> all fragments will be freed, then the page becomes available again.
> 
> > 
> > i.e. when we consider 64k page machines and 4k block sizes (i.e.
> > default config), every single metadata allocation is a sub-page
> > allocation and so will use this new page frag mechanism. IOWs, it
> > will result in fragmenting memory severely and typical memory
> > reclaim not being able to fix it because the metadata that pins each
> > page is largely unreclaimable...
> 
> It can be an issue in case of IO timeout & retry.

The worst case is still not worse than allocating single page for sub-page
IO, which should be used on other file systems under the same situation,
I guess.

thanks,
Ming

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-25 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-25  4:09 [PATCH] xfs: allocate sector sized IO buffer via page_frag_alloc Ming Lei
2019-02-25  4:36 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-25  8:46   ` Ming Lei
2019-02-25 10:03     ` Ming Lei [this message]
2019-02-25 20:11     ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-25 13:15   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-02-25 20:26     ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-26  2:22       ` Ming Lei
2019-02-26  3:02         ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-26  3:27           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-26  4:58             ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-26  9:33               ` Ming Lei
2019-02-26 10:06                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-02-26 11:12                   ` Ming Lei
2019-02-26 12:12                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-26 12:35                       ` Ming Lei
2019-02-26 13:02                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-26 13:42                           ` Ming Lei
2019-02-26 14:04                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-26 16:14                               ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-02-26 16:19                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-27  1:41                                   ` Ming Lei
2019-02-27  7:07                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-03-08  8:18                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-27 21:38                                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-26 15:30                             ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-26 20:45                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-27  1:50                   ` Ming Lei
2019-02-27  3:41                     ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-26 15:20     ` Christopher Lameter

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