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From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
To: Jeremy Cline <jcline@redhat.com>
Cc: David Both <dboth@millennium-technology.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] proc: update i_atime when reading files
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 22:47:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190225194627.GA14348@avx2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190222150020.GA14465@laptop.jcline.org>

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:00:20AM -0500, Jeremy Cline wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 08:37:42AM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 11:37:14AM -0500, Jeremy Cline wrote:
> > > Prior to commit 1da4d377f943 ("proc: revalidate misc dentries"), the
> > > access, modify, and change times of files in /proc were just the current
> > > time.
> > 
> > Ehh, actually no. Doing
> > 
> > 	$(which sleep) infinity </proc/foo &
> > 
> > will sabotage atime updates because dentry and inode will be pinned in
> > caches.
> > 
> > "revalidate misc denries" commit simply makes the effect (much) more
> > visible by making objects stay in caches for longer.
> 
> Indeed. It wasn't my intention to imply there's anything wrong with that
> commit, just that that's what caused this apparent change in behavior
> for users. In the "common" case when something hasn't pinned the dentry
> and inode what users saw was the current time.
> 
> > 
> > > Now the mtime and ctime values change mostly as a user would
> > > expect, but the atime isn't updated when the file read. This patch
> > > updates the access time of /proc files when they are read.
> > 
> > >  			rv = read(file, buf, count, ppos);
> > > +			if (rv >= 0)
> > > +				inode->i_atime = current_time(inode);
> > > +		}
> > 
> > Maybe it should be done given /proc is virtual so there are no concerns
> > about scheduling writes noone cares about to the filesystem.
> 
> Sorry, maybe I've not had enough coffee yet, but I don't understand this
> sentence.

I meant it should be harmless to enable atime unconditionally for /proc
because it is virtual filesystem.

      reply	other threads:[~2019-02-25 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-21 16:37 [PATCH] proc: update i_atime when reading files Jeremy Cline
2019-02-22  5:37 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2019-02-22 15:00   ` Jeremy Cline
2019-02-25 19:47     ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]

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