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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.de>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/15] dax: Introduce IOMAP_F_COW for copy-on-write
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 10:06:53 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190401230653.GT23020@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190401214102.bn4giybeqpbvdbb3@merlin>

On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 04:41:02PM -0500, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:
> On 15:38 01/04, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 02:02:50PM -0500, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:
> > > From: Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.com>
> > > 
> > > The IOMAP_F_COW is a flag to notify dax that it needs to copy
> > > the data from iomap->cow_addr to iomap->addr, if the start/end
> > > of I/O are not page aligned.
> > 
> > I see what you are trying to do here, but this is kinda gross.
> > 
> > > This also introduces dax_to_dax_copy() which performs a copy
> > > from one part of the device to another, to a maximum of one page.
> > > 
> > > Question: Using iomap.cow_addr == 0 means the CoW is to be copied
> > > (or memset) from a hole. Would this be better handled through a flag?
> > 
> > That's what all these checks in the iomap code do:
> > 
> 
> This is using iomap->flags not type.

Yes, I know. The fact that you tell me this (when it was obvious)
indicates to me that you didn't understand what I was saying.

i.e. the gross hack here is that this patch is trying to define a
new iomap type - both behaviourally and iomap content - via adding
a modifier flag rather than defining a new iomap->type. That's the
gross hack, and everything stems from that.

i.e. the "bloating" of the struct iomap is caused because the flag
modifier (IOMAP_F_COW) can't use parts of the iomap that are defined
for specific iomap types. e.g. IOMAP_INLINE type uses ->inline_data,
and so it can't be re-used by a iomap flag modifier such as
IOMAP_F_COW.

However, if we define a new type for this "need multiple mappings"
iomap rather than a flag, we don't need any new fields in the struct
iomap because we can use what already exists in the iomap.

> > 	if (iomap->type == IOMAP_HOLE || iomap->type == IOMAP_UNWRITTEN)
> > 
> > Oh, wait, you're trying to map two ranges in a single iomap and then
> > infer state from information that got chucked away.... IOWs, you're
> > doing it wrong - iomap algorithms are driven by how we manipulate
> > iomaps to do data operations efficiently, not how we copy data page
> > by page.
> > 
> > IOWs, what we really should have here is two iomaps - a source
> > and a destination iomap. The source is a read mapping of the
> > current address (where we are going to copy the data from), the
> > destination is the post-cow allocation mapping (where the data
> > goes).
> > 
> > Now you just copy the data from one map to the other iterating
> > source mappings until the necessary range of the destination has
> > been covered.  And you can check if the source map is IOMAP_HOLE or
> > IOMAP_UNWRITTEN and hence optimise the copy (i.e. zero the new
> > allocation) before copying in the new data.
> 
> Won't that be inefficient? With CoW we only need to write the first
> and last block.

You're assuming that partial data overwrites are the only case where
this dax-to-dax copy of a file range is required. That assumption is
false.

i.e. FALLOC_FL_UNSHARE_RANGE for DAX requires iterating over the
entire source range and copying all the contents to the newly
allocated destination range.  The partial block copying is just a
short version of this limited to a single block.

Sure, btrfs doesn't support FALLOC_FL_UNSHARE_RANGE, but if you're
going to be adding support for reflink to DAX, the infrastructure
needs to provide support for performing FALLOC_FL_UNSHARE_RANGE
to break extent sharing efficiently.

> Again, that is not required if the offset/end
> offset is block aligned. After that, it falls back to the
> regular write path of performing dax_copy_to_iter().
> We don't deal with IOMAP_UNWRITTEN in dax,

Yes we do. fallocate() can lay down unwritten extents, and we can
both read and write to them. See, for example, dax_iomap_actor()
called from dax_iomap_rw() via iomap_apply() - it does not call
dax_copy_to_iter() for reads if the range is IOMAP_HOLE or
IOMAP_UNWRITTEN.

> though other
> filesystems in the future may use CoW without dax.

That makes no sense. :/

> Besides, what you are suggesting will not fit well with the
> current iomap iterator code and would require another function
> altogether.

I'm not concerned about that - I would much prefer we do things
cleanly and properly rather than make expedient hacks for
questionable benefit that we'll have to completely rework or remove
the moment we implement DAX+reflink support in XFS.

> After Darrick's suggestion, we can even do away with cow_pos, so
> only the read address of cow_addr will exist.

As I mentioned earlier, even that is not necessary.

This is DAX - the iomap API and mapping functions can already return
pointers to inline data, and DAX can effectively be considered
inline data for the purposes of reading data.

As I said, the problem here is you are trying to use flags to define
a new type of iomap operation requires two mappings rather than one.
IMO, we should be defining an IOMAP_DAX_COW /type/ and then define
it to contain and behave as follows:

	- new destination region for data to be copied into is the
	  same setup as IOMAP_MAPPED
	- existing shared data that may be needed for reading is
	  mapped direct to device address by ->iomap_begin into
	  iomap->inline_data
	- if the iomap infrastructure needs to copy original source
	  data into destination, it copies directly from the memory
	  address in iomap->inline_data into the directly mapped DAX
	  desitination via memcpy().

This covers both the partial write COW case you are concerned with
here, and the full-extent range copy case that
FALLOC_FL_UNSHARE_RANGE requires.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-01 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20190326190301.32365-1-rgoldwyn@suse.de>
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 01/15] btrfs: create a mount option for dax Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:10   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-03-27 11:00     ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-27 12:00       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-03-27 12:26         ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-27 23:31         ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-27 17:38     ` Adam Borowski
2019-03-28 14:49   ` David Sterba
2019-03-28 17:28   ` David Sterba
2019-03-28 17:57     ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-04-01 20:43     ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 02/15] btrfs: Carve out btrfs_get_extent_map_write() out of btrfs_get_blocks_write() Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 03/15] btrfs: basic dax read Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 04/15] dax: Introduce IOMAP_F_COW for copy-on-write Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-27 17:54   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-27 18:58     ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-28 14:45       ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-04-01  4:38   ` Dave Chinner
2019-04-01 21:41     ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-04-01 23:06       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2019-04-03  1:56         ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-04-03  3:20           ` Dave Chinner
2019-04-07  7:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 05/15] btrfs: return whether extent is nocow or not Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-31 18:42   ` Nikolay Borisov
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 06/15] btrfs: Rename __endio_write_update_ordered() to btrfs_update_ordered_extent() Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 07/15] btrfs: add dax write support Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-28 14:53   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-04-01 20:39     ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 08/15] dax: add dax_iomap_cow to copy a mmap page before writing Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-28 15:41   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 09/15] btrfs: add dax mmap support Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-28 15:45   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 10/15] btrfs: Add dax specific address_space_operations Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 11/15] fs: dedup file range to use a compare function Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-28 17:04   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-04-01 20:36     ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 12/15] btrfs: trace functions for btrfs_iomap_begin/end Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:02 ` [PATCH 13/15] btrfs: handle dax page zeroing Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:03 ` [PATCH 14/15] btrfs: Disable dax-based defrag and send Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-26 19:03 ` [PATCH 15/15] btrfs: Writeprotect mmap pages on snapshot Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-28 15:48   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-03-26 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] btrfs dax support Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-27 20:14   ` Adam Borowski
2019-03-27 23:26     ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2019-03-28 10:24       ` [PATCH] btrfs: allow MAP_SYNC mmap Adam Borowski
2019-03-28 10:42         ` Adam Borowski
2019-04-01 20:08         ` Goldwyn Rodrigues

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