From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/8] drivers/pmem: Allow pmem_clear_poison() to accept arbitrary offset and len
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 14:11:43 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200227031143.GH10737@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200226165756.GB30329@redhat.com>
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:57:56AM -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 02:49:30PM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> [..]
> > > > I'm ok with replacing blkdev_issue_zeroout() with a dax operation
> > > > callback that deals with page aligned entries. That change at least
> > > > makes the error boundary symmetric across copy_from_iter() and the
> > > > zeroing path.
> > >
> > > IIUC, you are suggesting that modify dax_zero_page_range() to take page
> > > aligned start and size and call this interface from
> > > __dax_zero_page_range() and get rid of blkdev_issue_zeroout() in that
> > > path?
> > >
> > > Something like.
> > >
> > > __dax_zero_page_range() {
> > > if(page_aligned_io)
> > > call_dax_page_zero_range()
> > > else
> > > use_direct_access_and_memcpy;
> > > }
> > >
> > > And other callers of blkdev_issue_zeroout() in filesystems can migrate
> > > to calling dax_zero_page_range() instead.
> > >
> > > If yes, I am not seeing what advantage do we get by this change.
> > >
> > > - __dax_zero_page_range() seems to be called by only partial block
> > > zeroing code. So dax_zero_page_range() call will remain unused.
> > >
> > >
> > > - dax_zero_page_range() will be exact replacement of
> > > blkdev_issue_zeroout() so filesystems will not gain anything. Just that
> > > it will create a dax specific hook.
> > >
> > > In that case it might be simpler to just get rid of blkdev_issue_zeroout()
> > > call from __dax_zero_page_range() and make sure there are no callers of
> > > full block zeroing from this path.
> >
> > I think you're right. The path I'm concerned about not regressing is
> > the error clearing on new block allocation and we get that already via
> > xfs_zero_extent() and sb_issue_zeroout().
>
> Well I was wrong. I found atleast one user which uses __dax_zero_page_range()
> to zero full PAGE_SIZE blocks.
>
> xfs_io -c "allocsp 32K 0" foo.txt
That ioctl interface is deprecated and likely unused by any new
application written since 1999. It predates unwritten extents (1998)
and I don't think any native linux applications have ever used it. A
newly written DAX aware application would almost certainly not use
this interface.
IOWs, I wouldn't use it as justification for some special case
behaviour; I'm more likely to say "rip that ancient ioctl out" than
to jump through hoops because it's implementation behaviour.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-27 3:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-02-18 21:48 [PATCH v5 0/8] dax/pmem: Provide a dax operation to zero range of memory Vivek Goyal
2020-02-18 21:48 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] pmem: Add functions for reading/writing page to/from pmem Vivek Goyal
2020-02-18 21:48 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] drivers/pmem: Allow pmem_clear_poison() to accept arbitrary offset and len Vivek Goyal
2020-02-20 16:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-20 21:35 ` Jeff Moyer
2020-02-20 21:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-21 18:32 ` Jeff Moyer
2020-02-21 20:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-21 21:00 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-21 21:24 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-21 21:30 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-21 21:33 ` Jeff Moyer
2020-02-23 23:03 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-24 0:40 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-24 13:50 ` Jeff Moyer
2020-02-24 20:48 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-24 21:53 ` Jeff Moyer
2020-02-25 0:26 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-25 20:32 ` Jeff Moyer
2020-02-25 21:52 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-25 23:26 ` Jane Chu
2020-02-24 15:38 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-27 3:02 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-27 4:19 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-28 1:30 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-28 3:28 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-28 14:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-28 16:26 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-24 20:13 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-24 20:52 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-24 21:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-24 21:32 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-25 13:36 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-25 16:25 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-25 20:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-25 22:49 ` Dan Williams
2020-02-26 13:51 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-26 16:57 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-27 3:11 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2020-02-27 15:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-28 1:50 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 21:48 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] pmem: Enable pmem_do_write() to deal with arbitrary ranges Vivek Goyal
2020-02-20 16:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-18 21:48 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] dax, pmem: Add a dax operation zero_page_range Vivek Goyal
2020-03-31 19:38 ` Dan Williams
2020-04-01 13:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-04-01 16:14 ` Vivek Goyal
2020-02-18 21:48 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] s390,dcssblk,dax: Add dax zero_page_range operation to dcssblk driver Vivek Goyal
2020-02-18 21:48 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] dm,dax: Add dax zero_page_range operation Vivek Goyal
2020-02-18 21:48 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] dax,iomap: Start using dax native zero_page_range() Vivek Goyal
2020-02-18 21:48 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] dax,iomap: Add helper dax_iomap_zero() to zero a range Vivek Goyal
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