From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: BUG: Mount ignores mount options
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 12:20:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48e443ba-51b5-cf10-3342-cdeabb91b224@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.21.1808140458040.23296@namei.org>
On 8/13/2018 12:00 PM, James Morris wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2018, Al Viro wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 09:48:53AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> Are there cases I'm missing? It sounds like the API could be improved
>>> to fully model the last case, and everything will work nicely.
>> You know, that's starting to remind of this little gem of Borges:
>> http://www.alamut.com/subj/artiface/language/johnWilkins.html
>> Especially the delightful (fake) quote contained in there:
>> [...] it is written that the animals are divided into:
>> (a) belonging to the emperor,
>> (b) embalmed,
>> (c) tame,
>> (d) sucking pigs,
>> (e) sirens,
>> (f) fabulous,
>> (g) stray dogs,
>> (h) included in the present classification,
>> (i) frenzied,
>> (j) innumerable,
>> (k) drawn with a very fine camelhair brush,
>> (l) et cetera,
>> (m) having just broken the water pitcher,
>> (n) that from a long way off look like flies.
>
> Coincidentally, this was also the model for Linux capabilities.
Linux capabilities are POSIX capabilities which are modeled closely
to accommodate the historical behavior manifest in the P1003.1 specification.
So except for (c), (f) and (k) you can use this characterization.
On a slightly more serious note, there's a lot of Linux, mount semantics
included, that have grow organically and that aren't quite up to the
usage models they are being applied to. I applaud David's work in part
because it may make it possible to accommodate more of those cases going
forward.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-13 19:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-01 15:23 [PATCH 00/33] VFS: Introduce filesystem context [ver #11] David Howells
2018-08-01 15:24 ` [PATCH 01/33] vfs: syscall: Add open_tree(2) to reference or clone a mount " David Howells
2018-08-02 17:31 ` Alan Jenkins
2018-08-02 21:29 ` Al Viro
2018-08-02 21:51 ` David Howells
2018-08-02 23:46 ` Alan Jenkins
2018-08-01 15:24 ` [PATCH 02/33] vfs: syscall: Add move_mount(2) to move mounts around " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:24 ` [PATCH 03/33] teach move_mount(2) to work with OPEN_TREE_CLONE " David Howells
2018-10-12 14:25 ` Alan Jenkins
2018-08-01 15:24 ` [PATCH 04/33] vfs: Suppress MS_* flag defs within the kernel unless explicitly enabled " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:24 ` [PATCH 05/33] vfs: Introduce the basic header for the new mount API's filesystem context " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:24 ` [PATCH 06/33] vfs: Introduce logging functions " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:24 ` [PATCH 07/33] vfs: Add configuration parser helpers " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:24 ` [PATCH 08/33] vfs: Add LSM hooks for the new mount API " David Howells
2018-08-01 20:50 ` James Morris
2018-08-01 22:53 ` David Howells
2018-08-01 15:25 ` [PATCH 09/33] selinux: Implement the new mount API LSM hooks " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:25 ` [PATCH 10/33] smack: Implement filesystem context security " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:25 ` [PATCH 11/33] apparmor: Implement security hooks for the new mount API " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:25 ` [PATCH 12/33] tomoyo: " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:25 ` [PATCH 13/33] vfs: Separate changing mount flags full remount " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:25 ` [PATCH 14/33] vfs: Implement a filesystem superblock creation/configuration context " David Howells
2018-09-11 17:46 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11 21:52 ` David Howells
2018-09-11 22:07 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11 23:17 ` David Howells
2018-09-11 23:54 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-18 9:07 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-09-18 9:40 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-09-18 14:06 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-19 1:12 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-09-19 1:26 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-09-18 15:34 ` David Howells
2018-09-18 16:39 ` David Howells
2018-09-19 1:15 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-09-18 17:43 ` David Howells
2018-09-18 9:54 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-09-18 15:28 ` David Howells
2018-08-01 15:25 ` [PATCH 15/33] vfs: Remove unused code after filesystem context changes " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:25 ` [PATCH 16/33] procfs: Move proc_fill_super() to fs/proc/root.c " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 17/33] proc: Add fs_context support to procfs " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 18/33] ipc: Convert mqueue fs to fs_context " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 19/33] cpuset: Use " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 20/33] kernfs, sysfs, cgroup, intel_rdt: Support " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 21/33] hugetlbfs: Convert to " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 22/33] vfs: Remove kern_mount_data() " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 23/33] vfs: Provide documentation for new mount API " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 24/33] Make anon_inodes unconditional " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:26 ` [PATCH 25/33] vfs: syscall: Add fsopen() to prepare for superblock creation " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:27 ` [PATCH 26/33] vfs: Implement logging through fs_context " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:27 ` [PATCH 27/33] vfs: Add some logging to the core users of the fs_context log " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:27 ` [PATCH 28/33] vfs: syscall: Add fsconfig() for configuring and managing a context " David Howells
2018-08-06 17:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09 14:14 ` David Howells
2018-08-09 14:24 ` David Howells
2018-08-09 14:35 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-08-09 15:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-09 16:33 ` David Howells
2018-08-11 20:20 ` David Howells
2018-08-11 23:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-01 15:27 ` [PATCH 29/33] vfs: syscall: Add fsmount() to create a mount for a superblock " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:27 ` [PATCH 30/33] vfs: syscall: Add fspick() to select a superblock for reconfiguration " David Howells
2018-08-24 14:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-08-24 14:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-01 15:27 ` [PATCH 31/33] afs: Add fs_context support " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:27 ` [PATCH 32/33] afs: Use fs_context to pass parameters over automount " David Howells
2018-08-01 15:27 ` [PATCH 33/33] vfs: Add a sample program for the new mount API " David Howells
2018-08-10 14:05 ` BUG: Mount ignores mount options Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-10 14:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-10 15:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-10 15:24 ` Al Viro
2018-08-10 15:11 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-10 15:13 ` David Howells
2018-08-10 15:16 ` Al Viro
2018-08-11 1:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-11 1:46 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-11 4:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-11 17:47 ` Casey Schaufler
2018-08-15 4:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-11 1:58 ` Al Viro
2018-08-11 2:17 ` Al Viro
2018-08-11 4:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-13 12:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-08-10 15:11 ` David Howells
2018-08-10 15:39 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-10 15:55 ` Casey Schaufler
2018-08-10 16:11 ` David Howells
2018-08-10 18:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-10 15:53 ` David Howells
2018-08-10 16:14 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-10 20:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-10 20:46 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-10 22:12 ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-08-10 23:54 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-08-11 0:38 ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-08-11 1:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-13 16:35 ` Alan Cox
2018-08-13 16:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-13 17:29 ` Al Viro
2018-08-13 19:00 ` James Morris
2018-08-13 19:20 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2018-08-15 23:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-08-11 0:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-11 1:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-11 7:29 ` David Howells
2018-08-11 16:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-11 16:51 ` Al Viro
2018-08-15 16:31 ` Should we split the network filesystem setup into two phases? David Howells
2018-08-15 16:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-08-16 3:51 ` Steve French
2018-08-16 5:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-16 16:24 ` Steve French
2018-08-16 17:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-08-16 17:23 ` Aurélien Aptel
2018-08-16 18:36 ` Steve French
2018-08-17 23:11 ` Al Viro
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